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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 13 augustus 2002 16:58
> Aan: 'Langsman, Marc'; Robert Taylor; 'Ian Cheshire';
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [email protected]
> Onderwerp: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> 
> 
> Now there's an idea...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: 'Robert Taylor'; 'Ian Cheshire'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
> [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah.. and maybe submerge should start giving tunes away for 
> free or at
> least cost :P
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:40 PM
> >To: 'Ian Cheshire'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> >
> >
> >Exactly - it's all about the Benjamins isn't it?
> >I hope most musicians don't feel this way about their music, 
> >as potential
> >dollar earners as opposed to artistic creations.
> >
> >
> >Cos hey lets not beat around the bush,,there are few people 
> >who would sit
> >back and bite their tongue and see the dollars just running 
> >away from them
> >from what they originally created.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 13 August 2002 13:15
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> >
> >
> >
> >Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
> >
> >-------------------- Start of message text --------------------
> >
> >Surely the point is that the multi-millionaire Beastie Boys 
> >are about to
> >bankrupt the guy, all for the privelege of using HIS music, 
> >without asking
> >the right people.
> >
> >Bit shady on their part, and you would have thought if they 
> >knew the full
> >story, you'd have hoped that they'd get their record company 
> >to stop the
> >action taken against him.
> >
> >If, however, they know exactly what's going on, then they're 
> >bang out of
> >order and should be strung up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 13/08/2002 13:41:51
> >To:    "'Odeluga, Ken'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> >"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
> >       <[email protected]>
> >cc:
> >
> >
> >Subject:    RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> >
> >Yes - What is wrong with sampling? Hip hop and many 
> electronic forms of
> >music use it creatively
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:28 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
> >Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> >
> >
> >Ha! Is this is serious considered response?
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:26 AM
> >>To: 'Neontsetse'; 313s
> >>Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> >>
> >>
> >>What about the artist's right to sample?
> >>Surely it is ridiculous to award damages to an artist if they 
> >haven't been
> >>harmed commercially by the sampling?
> >>No one is ever going to buy a Beastie boys record in the 
> >mistaken belief
> >>that it is a James Newton record.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Neontsetse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:20 AM
> >>To: 313s
> >>Subject: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>voila
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Please distribute to raise awareness and support of this important
> >>> > Artists' Rights and Cultural Hegemony issue!
> >>> >
> >>> > -James Newton loses to Beastie Boys: Amicus
> >>> >
> >>> > support requested!   URGENT!!!!
> >>> > (This story can found at <http://www.jazzhouse.org/lobby.html>)
> >>> >
> >>> > From: James Newton (renowned jazz musician) --
> >>> >
> >>> >        For the last two years I have been involved in a 
> >suit because
> >>> > the Beastie Boys sampled a part of my composition "Choir" 
> >and did not
> >>> > contact me for permission. They did not change in any way 
> >what they
> >>> > sampled from "Choir". It begins with the sampled six and a half
> >>> > seconds and loops in the song over forty times. "Pass the 
> >Mic'" has
> >>> > appeared in CD, MP3, LP, and DVD formats.
> >>> >
> >>> >         The law clearly states that to use someone else's 
> >music one
> >>> > must contact and receive permission from both the record 
> >company and
> >>> > the copyright  owner."Choir" was registered with the 
> >copyright office
> >>> > and ASCAP in 1978. My publishing company JANEW MUSIC 
> >controls 100% of
> >>> > the rights. The Beastie Boys contacted and received 
> >permission from
> >>> > ECM Records, which released my album Axum which they 
> >sampled in 1992,
> >>> > and ignored me.
> >>> >
> >>> >         The case went up for summary judgement one month 
> >ago and Judge
> >>> > Nora Manella of US Federal Court ruled against me!!!!!!!!!!! She
> >>> > stated as a fact of law that my music was not original! 
> >The six and a
> >>> > half second sample consists of three sung notes C,Db, C 
> and a held
> >>> > flute harmonic C2, as a result of the combination of 
> >voice, harmonic
> >>> > and a balanced distribution of each a series of shifting 
> >multiphonics
> >>> > are created. The judge ignored the multiphonics because 
> >they weren't
> >>> > written on the score and said that there are just three 
> >notes in the
> >>> > score which aren't protectable. If you go to the Beastie 
> >Boy's DVD of
> >>> > the piece "Pass the Mic" to signify the song there is 
> >only my flute
> >>> > sample and a drum beat. The judge consistently used 
> >European paradigms
> >>> > to judge my music. An aria from Purcell's "Dido and 
> >Aeneas" and Cole
> >>> > Porter's "Night and Day" were examples of what is 
> >protectable. "Choir"
> >>> > is about four black women singing in a church in rural 
> >Arkansas. This
> >>> > work is a modern approach to a spiritual. As you well 
> >know, one would
> >>> > be hard-pressed to find multiphonic fingerings in most 
> >jazz scores,
> >>> > even when multiphonics are used!!!! If I'm writing for 
> a classical
> >>> > ensemble I'll write out the multiphonic fingerings 
> because of how
> >>> > notation is used in that culture of music.
> >>> >
> >>> >         The urgency of this letter is that after unjustly 
> >winning the
> >>> > case the Beastie Boys have filed a motion with the court 
> >for me to pay
> >>> > their legal fees of $492,000 after they stole my music. I 
> >have already
> >>> > spent a considerable amount of money for a creative musician and
> >>> > college professor. This would, of course, send me into 
> >bankruptcy, and
> >>> > I stand a chance of losing my home and all that I have 
> worked for
> >>> > through the years. If you can spread news of this 
> >judgement around, it
> >>> > will help my cause greatly.
> >>> >
> >>> >      The more newspapers, magazines and journals that this is
> >>> > placed in will help. Please inform us of any press that 
> appears so
> >>> > that we can use it in our legal endeavors. My lawyer, Alan Korn
> >>> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>), and he can 
> give you the
> >>> > information of where to send Amicus letters.
> >>> >
> >>> >         This decision is a dangerous one that would affect jazz
> >>> > composers and other composers that choose to write in 
> >other ways.  The
> >>> > strain on this trial and subsequent rulings have been 
> >immense. It has
> >>> > curtailed much of my artistic output because of the 
> seriousness of
> >>> > this situation. This is a time when I have to now ask for 
> >your help. I
> >>> > am fighting for my rights and the abilty to express 
> >myself in my own
> >>> > and any other cultural perspective that I choose as an artist.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yours in music and freedom,
> >>> > James Newton
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