" but they should have at least given credit to the
author."

 by george they should of!what a load of brass monkey's!

oh copyright there sorry BB's I'll send you some cash for using it :0)

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Leidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 August 2002 16:43
To: Ian Cheshire
Cc: 'Robert Taylor'; 'jurren baars'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?



> everyone, go round to Channel four and ask for Robert Taylor and then
follow
> him home and take what is his and make it yours cos after all There is a
> school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public
> domain it belongs to everyone.
>

alright, i know you're joking here, but just wanted to clarify because I
think there is a case to be made for this school of thought.  you are
talking about stealing someone's personal belongings- this has always been
against the law and has nothing to do with copyright issues. the issue is
when created works are distributed to the public, how the public is
allowed to use those works.

there is a good 30 min speech wrapped in an 8meg flash file by Lawrence
Lessig (author and Stanford Law Professor) promoting this school of
thought here:
http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/

and more info on what Lessig is up to at
http://lessig.org

Regarding the Beastie Boys thing- I agree with the last few posts- there
may be nothing wrong with their use of the work in a new and (arguably)
original context- but they should have at least given credit to the
author. I think many hip hoppers have a sort of hypocritical stance on
sampling. They advocate it, but at the same time don't want to reveal
their sources for fear of other hip hoppers swiping the same loops or
discovering the secret weapons of their record collection :)

pete

> yipee!
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 August 2002 17:05
> To: 'jurren baars'; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
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>
>
> > the point is that james newton created
> the original piece; it's his work, so he has the right to do with it what
HE
>
> wants.
> Does he really have that right?
> There is a school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public
> domain it belongs to everyone.
>
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