For the record, I did take it off list. I've learnt my lessons and I now know when not to share things with the list (well maybe not all the time ;-))
-----Original Message----- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING As I said Rob - deadly serious. >So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political >repression? I didn't say that. >If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the >point of resisting anything opressive? >From some perspectives, there is no point, you're right - are you any match for a millitary intelligence machine with ancient experience in eliminating desent? But on the other hand, throughout history, the minority has protested about the heedless inhumanity which a smaller ruling minority has been perpetrating on the majority. Sometimes it works, rarely, but sometimes. I draw some comfort from that and conclude that I'll continue the tradition. Why will you be there? Perhaps we should take this off-list from this point on. Ken >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:53 AM >To: 'Odeluga, Ken' >Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING > > >You're joking ain't ya? > >So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political >repression? >If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the >point of resisting anything opressive? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:44 AM >To: Robert Taylor; 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; >[email protected] >Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING > > >Deadly serious mate - I think you know it too. (It's hard to face these >difficult truths so denial is quite natural and in a way, acceptable.) > >k > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM >>To: 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; [email protected] >>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING >> >> >>That's one of the funniest things I have read all day. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dr.dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:04 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; [email protected] >>Subject: Re: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING >> >> >>as the thing is somhow off-topic >> >>this will be my last comment about matter´s like this on the list >> >>will give you a detroit-techno-connection though: >> >> >>this is dedicated to - Dopplereffekt - Fascist State >> >> >>I tried to say this before: >> >>any comment made over the web in public - any critical thought etc.. >> >>will be scanned, filtered and archived by Echolon, the NSA etc... >> >>(find out yourself as much as you can about the institutions like this - >> >>it is no persecution complex - no way - this IS big brother watching) >> >>- this stuff is not controled and limited by the public so far >> >>therefore - any too "critical dangerous opinion" you speak out might >> >>be used against you some time - maybe not, but maybe in ten years, maybe >> >>when things got worse in the direction they are currently heading again. >> >>(... if you trust in justice ? just remember how the black panters >> >>got deleted - when they started to get more popular ... ) >> >>as I said enough critical things before here, >> >>it won´t make a difference if I write this too - >> >>but I want to warn all people who didn´t "lean so much out off the window" >> >>worrying about the things happening >> >>to be aware that modern communication technology is used to >control people, >> >>as long as this technology is not controled and regulated by the people - >> >>don´t show your complete personality combined with critical >opinions on the >> >>web, fax, telephone etc... - this is emotional - but really not clever >> >>looking at the facts at the moment >> >>I know many people here do know all this but still concepts for clever >> >>peaceful resistance are not well known. >> >>many peacefull resistance-groups are giving their data over the web >> >>Greenpeace and Amnesty are some of the most controled pages ... >> >>if you enter their pages - your move is watched - >> >>all this could become dangerous - maybe it won´t matter - but >maybe it will >> >>- >> >>and this is why I finally agree with Joe (for example) >> >>to keep certain matters offlist nowadays - >> >>an opinion in a contoled area has not the meaning of freedom it >should have >> >>there´s only a small step to a real Fascist State >> >>out >> >>m >>planetrock2003 >> >> >> >>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >necessarily >>represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >>stated. 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