Ok sorry. I didn't notice that 313 wasn't in the address line. So we agree. Good. Now let's get outta here. k
>-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:19 AM >To: 'Odeluga, Ken' >Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING > > >Ken - I did take it off-list and you responded to the list and not me. >I have had my wrist slapped by Matt McQueen for off-topicness and >now you've >dragged me onto the list again, so now I'm going to look like an even more >obnoxious bastard than I am. > >I don't for a minute think the march will stop the war but I also think it >is up to us to let the governments know that we disagree with them or we >might as well roll over now and give up. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:10 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING > > >As I said Rob - deadly serious. > >>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political >>repression? > >I didn't say that. > >>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the >>point of resisting anything opressive? > >>From some perspectives, there is no point, you're right - are you any match >for a millitary intelligence machine with ancient experience in eliminating >desent? But on the other hand, throughout history, the minority has >protested about the heedless inhumanity which a smaller ruling minority has >been perpetrating on the majority. Sometimes it works, rarely, but >sometimes. > >I draw some comfort from that and conclude that I'll continue the >tradition. > >Why will you be there? > >Perhaps we should take this off-list from this point on. > >Ken > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:53 AM >>To: 'Odeluga, Ken' >>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING >> >> >>You're joking ain't ya? >> >>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political >>repression? >>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the >>point of resisting anything opressive? >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:44 AM >>To: Robert Taylor; 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; >>[email protected] >>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING >> >> >>Deadly serious mate - I think you know it too. (It's hard to face these >>difficult truths so denial is quite natural and in a way, acceptable.) >> >>k >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM >>>To: 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; [email protected] >>>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING >>> >>> >>>That's one of the funniest things I have read all day. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: dr.dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:04 PM >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING >>> >>> >>>as the thing is somhow off-topic >>> >>>this will be my last comment about matter´s like this on the list >>> >>>will give you a detroit-techno-connection though: >>> >>> >>>this is dedicated to - Dopplereffekt - Fascist State >>> >>> >>>I tried to say this before: >>> >>>any comment made over the web in public - any critical thought etc.. >>> >>>will be scanned, filtered and archived by Echolon, the NSA etc... >>> >>>(find out yourself as much as you can about the institutions like this - >>> >>>it is no persecution complex - no way - this IS big brother watching) >>> >>>- this stuff is not controled and limited by the public so far >>> >>>therefore - any too "critical dangerous opinion" you speak out might >>> >>>be used against you some time - maybe not, but maybe in ten years, maybe >>> >>>when things got worse in the direction they are currently heading again. >>> >>>(... if you trust in justice ? just remember how the black panters >>> >>>got deleted - when they started to get more popular ... ) >>> >>>as I said enough critical things before here, >>> >>>it won´t make a difference if I write this too - >>> >>>but I want to warn all people who didn´t "lean so much out off >the window" >>> >>>worrying about the things happening >>> >>>to be aware that modern communication technology is used to >>control people, >>> >>>as long as this technology is not controled and regulated by the people - >>> >>>don´t show your complete personality combined with critical >>opinions on the >>> >>>web, fax, telephone etc... - this is emotional - but really not clever >>> >>>looking at the facts at the moment >>> >>>I know many people here do know all this but still concepts for clever >>> >>>peaceful resistance are not well known. >>> >>>many peacefull resistance-groups are giving their data over the web >>> >>>Greenpeace and Amnesty are some of the most controled pages ... >>> >>>if you enter their pages - your move is watched - >>> >>>all this could become dangerous - maybe it won´t matter - but >>maybe it will >>> >>>- >>> >>>and this is why I finally agree with Joe (for example) >>> >>>to keep certain matters offlist nowadays - >>> >>>an opinion in a contoled area has not the meaning of freedom it >>should have >>> >>>there´s only a small step to a real Fascist State >>> >>>out >>> >>>m >>>planetrock2003 >>> >>> >>> >>>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >>necessarily >>>represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless >specifically >>>stated. 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