----- Original Message ----- From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:58 PM Subject: (313) new order.
> Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order > and detroit techno? Aha! One of my favorite subjects, and for a long time my favorite band. I think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, and the less-pop ones too. Of all of those that I named, New Order was arguably the moodiest, so you could follow that to mean that they were one of the more influential synth-pop bands, with the way the Detroit sound developed. Of course, you have to take into account industrial stuff, house, italo, etc as well, but I don't think you can discount their importance, although it would be hard to quantify I suspect, other than referencing old playlists maybe? > And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band? Substance is an amazing compilation of revised (remixed and often extended) classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just reflect the listener's taste. Me, I love almost all of it - with Brotherhood and post-Technique stuff not quite living up to the normal standards in my mind. Low Life has great moments, and is coherent throughout (unlike Brotherhood IMHO - still love a couple of tracks on there though). Technique is brilliant, and some of the best dancefloor stuff was on that album. Personally, I'd put Power Corruption & Lies at the top of your list, in terms of proper albums (f*ck 'Blue Monday', I'm talking about '5 8 6' and 'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?), and Movement would be a close second for me (although more along the lines of Joy Division than later New Order). Also make sure to get Factus, for the best versions of Everything's Gone Green and Temptation. Rawer than the cleaned up versions on Substance, which I also love, but ain't quite the same for me. Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12" (off of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring myself to taint the memory. I'll caution, that some of the poppier stuff may seem a bit saccharine on a first listen, but it may grow on you - may not. I wonder what I would think of it if I first heard it today??? Tristan ======= Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
