well i think thats all pretty obvious, no offense, and i was never calling any sort of art or passion idealistic nonsense. i'm calling the notion that real art means not getting paid...etc etc...i released music 6 years after it was made, did it suddenly become non-art cus i got paid for it..6 years after the fact? thats an awfully simplistic, retroactive and idiotic view of the forces/passions which go into making "art"

"Idealistic nonsense" is exactly what a lot of great art is.  Tons of
great music gets made by people like me who don't make money off it.
(Well, I did make $20 with my rock band Saturday night!)  Some talented
people also manage to make money doing music, I don't think money
NECESSARILY corrupts the music.  But surely the desire to make a fortune
off of music is responsible for a great deal of garbage, whereas tons of
great music gets made every day by people all over the world who make
almost nothing from it.  There is nothing "idealistic" about passion,
and those who are passionate about making music will continue to do so,
with or without the money.  Passion and love of creating are just as
"real" forces in people's lives as materialistic motives.

_David

-----Original Message-----
From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc

>I know some of you disagree, and I knew it before I sent the mail.
sooo,
>save the counter-point emails to me, because this is my own opinion,
and

man, stfu!! if you dont want people to respond, dont post to the list
about
it. your opinions is short-sighted and selfish and i'll call it for what
i
see it -- BS!! we're all familiar with idealistic nonsense
wahh wahh

gimme a break!!

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