i agree john.
if art were free some of the greatest masterpieces of all time would never
have been made!! financial compensation IS a perfectly sound motivation.
maybe even when it's the only motivation. da vinci didnt work for free!
PEOPLE dont work for free! a lot of art takes SERIOUS work, that you cant do
in your spare hours off from your paying job! lots of art takes talent and
knowledge, not just a medium and oppurtunity! a lot of art takes money to be
made! artists make art for a variety of reasons and what kind of
self-righteous elitist are you to suggest it isnt art as true as yours??
it's the sort of ultra-conservative viewpoint that intellectual elites
(including nazis!) used to attack pop music and culture earlier this century
-- commercial music, art for the masses is vulgar and not true art - bs!
dance music is firmly rooted within pop culture. i think your viewpoint
confuses the values and heady idealism of underground culture with financial
and cultural reality. i dont think you intended any harm, but you definitely
need to stick both your feet in your mouth.
who cares about your opinion if it's irrelevant to anybody but yourself..??
great, you're happy with an online niche market, not releasing music on
vinyl, and can afford to spend time on your art instead of at a paying job
-- that is a unique ability and pov! that doesnt help other artists. that
doesnt grow anything. you may think it's revolutionary, but not only is it
actually incredibly old-fashioned and outdated, but it's not viable enough
to be revolutionary at this point. and i doubt it will be viable for a long
long time, despite your futuristic vision of what music will become. please!
i 'd say it's a limp idea!
i find the whole argument ridiculously idealistic, unfounded, and stating
your "opinion" as if its some undeniable nature of true art and whining when
others disagree..WEAK. not to mention this whole damn viewpoint is old as
hell, on this list and in the world we live in, and i'm disgusted we even
have to discuss it...i really dont think this opinion added much worthwile
to the consideration of the problem of digital media and p2p, it's just a
shrug-your-shoulders, "it doesnt matter anyway" cop-out...
jt
suggesting that you can only have soul in your music if it's free is a bit
insulting to all the soulful labels and artists that do make money.
its not a question of "trading soul for money". many artists never
compromise and make money.
anyway, for financial gain surely the compromise should be the other way -
taking the soul out of the music?
john
----- Original Message -----
From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
> if you're asking *me*, I've already said I dont support dollar signs
being
> attached to my music. thats just my own belief, and it doesnt threaten
> anyone else. this stemmed from me making music for years, and the
anxiety
> that comes with releasing it, as opposed to doing it for the love of the
> art. my opinion only.
>
> I dont think musicians that make money from music are doing anything
> wrong... if I did, I'd be alienating a large number of my friends...
>
> I think money dirties the art, and I dont need record labels to distro
my
> stuff anymore to the REAL audience. I can put it in the hands of the
> audience via the internet. I choose to embrace the technology instead
of
> fighting it.
>
> I know some of you disagree, and I knew it before I sent the mail.
sooo,
> save the counter-point emails to me, because this is my own opinion, and
> nothing Im trying to push on the world. I already traded the cash for
the
> soul of my tracks, I've made my choice.
>
> and no one ever said the musicians dont DESERVE the money, but for me,
> selling tracks is like putting my daughter out on the corner to turn
tricks.
> sure I COULD make money from music, but at the expense of my soul and
the
> emotion behind the tracks.
>
> trying to address the torrent of emails I received in response in one
> conglomerate email,
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >(i tend to believe, as a producer, that all music, as a
> > >form of art, should be free and that no one should make a
> > >living as a musician)
> >
> > most musicians don't - maybe nobody should make a living off of
musicians
> > they way that unscrupulous record labels do?
> > I think that would be a better situation.
> >
> > I'm not a recording artist but couldn't musician's unions be a bit
> stronger
> > in fighting the status quo of contracts and payment? Seems like the
larger
> > unions are in bed with the IIRC and the major media corps.
> >
> > MEK
> >
>
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