On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:37:44 +1100, "Cyclone Louise Wehner" wrote:
> I started that thread. It's still my album of the year. > ;) > I think there was some great R&B/hip-hop music this > year, like Common (OK, > we got the release a couple of months late), NERD and I > loved Martina Topley > Bird's Quixotic, Les Nubians, and so on. > I also loved Moodymann and Andres. To me it's all part > of a wider spectrum. > > >> dunno if its been discussed on the list yet but > outkast's 'hey ya' is > >> definitely one top 10 mainstream chart hit I really > enjoy hearing on the > >> radio. > >> > >> how come no stores seem to sell 12"s of it though? I'm under the impression that it came out promo-only as a double A side with "I Like The Way You Move", both as album cuts, ie no remixes or anything. I'm a huge fan of Outkast's music but I wish they would talk about women and sex in a more positive way. I just can't stand hearing men use the word "bitch" and continue to be apalled by how many men in hip hop and r n b continue to talk about lesbians in a negative way ie either "i'm so much of a man lesbians want me too" and/or "she doesn't want me so she must be a lesbian". i still think much can be learned from prince, who talked about women and sex very very often, but always positively. Prince seemed to celebrate sexuality for the sake of it, whereas for Outkast and many hip hop and r n b acts, sexuality is talked about as a "power" issue of "men having power over women", which I find distasteful. Speaking of NERD, Pharrell seems to talk about women and sex positively. my CDN .02. Andrew Duke out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12&fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://cognitionaudioworks.com
