having been disappointed (borderline embarrased) the last 3 times I've
seen mills- i don't think you could pay me to leave the house and go see
him.

maybe if i was already there...

or if everyoen i know was going, making it more of a social thing.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> >I guess its his choice
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> exactly.
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> >I still would pay 15 bux to go see him
>
> as would I
>
> I think too many people expect too much from him or come to his shows with
> expectations of what a Jeff Mills show is and then when he doesn't deliver
> their preconceived notion they get in his face. I know it's happened
> because he's mentioned it on his discussion board.
>
> I don't think Detroit is "under" him - possibly he thinks it's behind him,
> as in his past. Maybe there's bad memories - who the f*ck but Jeff Mills
> and those whom he's told really know so people should just let the man be
> and go see him where he *does* play.
>
> and the high price on the limited 3x12" - well maybe he figures he has to
> make his money NOW because maybe he figures who ever is going to buy it
> will upload it to soulseek or what ever file share they are using and then
> everyone will have it for free.
>
> MEK
>
>
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> its his loss at this point.  maybe he's afraid he cant compete with the new
> talents coming out of detroit now.  maybe detroits under him.  I guess its
> his choice, theres more gig opportunity than there is mills to go around
>
> even tho he still plays the same records as 3 years ago, I still would pay
> 15 bux to go see him if he could stomach a night in detroit :)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) axis
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> >
> >
> > >Well isn't that a pompous response?
> >
> > No - it wasn't pompous, it was sarcastic. Crack a dictionary.
> >
> > Do you know when the last time Jeff Mills was hired to play in Chicago?
> Or
> > the last time he was offered to play there?
> > Just because he's from Detroit or lives in Chicago doesn't obligate him
> to
> > play there - I could imagine that there *could* exist for him many
> personal
> > issues with people in Detroit (or Chicago) that would cause him to say to
> > himself - "you know, self, I'd only go back to Detroit if I was given a
> > million dollars"
> >
> > >I think artists/musicians/whatever have a responsibility to their
> > >community beyond just releasing records--
> >
> > As several people have stated - Jeff does give back to his community - he
> > just doesn't do it in the public eye for loads of attention or to get the
> > "ok" from people like yourself. It's called being humble.
> >
> > >but instead is essentially plundering and pilfering
> > >whatever he can from the apparently willing fans.
> >
> > I'd still like to know what you think you are personally being robbed of.
> > You've seen him at a bar - are you pissed because he's relaxing instead
> of
> > DJing?
> >
> > I've known many DJs and artists who live in Minneapolis but don't play
> > here. They prefer to play in Europe or other cities because they get a
> > better response and they like to keep the city they live in as a sort of
> > quiet retreat from where they perform.
> >
> > makes sense to me
> > MEK
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       atomly
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> >                       01/14/04 04:18 PM
> >
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > I agree - all those Jeff Mills records I and thousands of other people
> > > own and enjoy in our living rooms - not to mention all of us who use
> > > his records to make other people dance, plus the fantastic DJ sets
> > > we've experienced, and his and Robert Hoods practical invention of the
> > > minimal techno style don't amount to much. We've been duped.
> > >
> > > I think Jeff Mills owes us all a personal apology for robbing us all
> > > these years of "a lot" - whatever that "a lot" may be.
> >
> > Well isn't that a pompous response?
> >
> > Jeff Mills hasn't played in Chicago since 1993? despite living here for
> > years.  You may remember that he reluctantly agreed to play a show in
> > Detroit in 2000 after not performing there for years, even though he's
> > from there, and then cancelled it because it didn't sell enough tickets.
> > The event finally happened years later, but not until after he had acted
> > like a total prima donna.
> >
> > I think artists/musicians/whatever have a responsibility to their
> > community beyond just releasing records-- art is not created inside some
> > sort of a vacuum.  You may disagree with me, and that's fine, but that's
> > how I feel and that influences how and where I spend my money.
> >
> > I think that Jeff Mills has a certain responsibility to help foster the
> > American electronic music scene being that he is an electronic musician
> > from the United States.  It's like he took what he needed from
> > Detroit/Chicago and then just turned his back on them.  It's not like he
> > invented techno, despite what some of you may think, but rather was
> > introduced to a fertile art scene and is not acting to maintain that
> > scene at all but instead is essentially plundering and pilfering
> > whatever he can from the apparently willing fans.
> >
> > --
> > :: atomly ::
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