On Jan 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt McQueen would know more about it...

No offence to Matt, but I don;t think he really goes out to much in
chicago.

Atomly goes out every night0 so he would probably know better.

ouch   ;)  Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated.

Truth be told (as weird as this is) I've gone out more in the last 2 years then when i first moved here from michigan about 7 years ago, when I was going to Detroit thangs regularly and was very spoiled with who I could see.. i admit.. (this was also when Jay Denham still lived in Kalamazoo so his parties had jaw-dropping all-techno lineups too). And I do bump into Mr. Atomly at a few gigs now and then around town, but the difference is he probably knows where all the afterparties are, and/or he's hosting them ;)

I don't know why i feel the need to say this but as a kneejerk reaction: let's see recently saw DJ Harvey, saw the last Kompakt tour supported by Detalles, DJ Traxx many times, DJ Hell, Plaid here I think 3 times now, Derrick Carter many times, Ron Trent many times (twice at the Urban Sound Gallery loft on N. Broadway, RIP), Anthony Nicholson several times past and present, Osunlade, DJ Rush, Dan Bell at least twice, Dave Clarke, the Ghostly night in chicago with Danny Wang DJ+Theremin & Ectomorph live PA twice and DJ once, the Techno nights at Empty Bottle that Israel Vines did DIY-style (years ago now), Magda at Slicks, Josh Werner & Mani & Marko's Gramaphone 'Techno Showcase' events (missed Peter Ford though, DANG), Metro Area twice (live & DJ), Common Factor, Rob Hood, Theo Parrish, Rick Wilhite, G.U., Leroy Burgess live (!!), Derrick May a couple times, Carl Craig a few times (even back at Shelter too, RIP) and then again at Mad Bar (RIP), John Tejada (at Zentra, yikes), Cajmere a couple times, Dajae live, several of the 773 techno nights at that Irish bar on Belmont & Western... random ILLmeasures various weeklies at Lava Lounge and Streetside, and of course the Meier brothers events like Kent originally mentioned... they brought James Ruskin over, Oliver Ho, etc. and many more little DIY things here and there. I freely admit to being inconsistent, but i DO go out here. :) Also I funded/organized/promoted an event here at Subterranean a couple years ago for a deFocus tour stop with CiM (live PA) & Clair Focus from London and Clark Warner from Detroit, so I've seen that side of things too.

But as for a regular, all hard or minimal techno night here in Chicago? Unlikely to happen unless it's small-ish and DIY.. so those come and go, but they're still around. I'm not always the first in line for it cause unless I think it's an exciting DJ (young or old) who can bring something fresh or unique to the table. I get bored much more quickly now, that's my own problem though, not Chicago's.

So blah blah blah, I dove into radio as my way to contribute to the chicago scene... for what I like to spin I think it's probably more fitting that way anyway. The downside is being tied up every friday night for the last few years I tend to miss a lot of shows I might otherwise actually go to. BTW -- upcoming in Chicago the next few weeks: Morgan Geist at SmartBar again w/ Common Factor on Jan. 30th. And then at Empty Bottle on Feb. 5th: Monolake w/ supporting DJ's Matt Mercer & Dave Siska... Wooo!

OK WAIT -- How does all this get back to Jeff Mills you ask? [Get on with it ya old coot]

Regarding Kent's assessment of Mills and Chicago, IMHO I agree with his theory that perhaps Chicago is a place he just blends in and does his business and chills out in relative anonymity. I've him DJ 5 or so times now , but never seen him in Chicago (except around town shopping a few times, doing the things everyone does quietly in their personal lives). Frankly it doesn't bother me, the scene here for techno is not anything one person like Mills can expected to put on his back and run up the mountain with, whether there is an army willing to follow him or not. It's up to everyone everywhere. That's how DIY gets better...

I can see how he wouldn't feel connected to chicago techno scene (or whatever), that's his choice. He never was a part of the music scene in the city here (like Derrick Carter was, and who behaves oppositely) or the gigs or promoters here or connected in any of the ways he was in Detroit. I'm not apologizing for Mills, nor do I want to heap any more speculation on reasons why people behave they do (there's been enough of that already) but i'm just saying I can understand anyone's desire to stay outside of the fray here. The fray can suck. It's thankless. It's unappreciative. It's cracked-out and depressing sometimes. It's also rewarding and exciting and vibrant and inspiring... -- SOMETIMES. If any of you were in Jeff Mills shoes you could make that decision yourself, but we don't know what it TRULY feels like .. so all this speculation on his (POTENTIAL) motives are kind of moot to me.

Personally I feel like artists make their statements wherever and however they feel like it -- some do it through community, or commerce, or open galleries or museums or clubs or sponsor events, or show up and spin for drinks at surprise gigs (a la Derrick Carter). But others do nothing except make their art and so that's that. I respect someone who wants to just be left alone and reclusive and I think that is each artist's prerogative, whatever your medium.

So is pricing on records BTW... Axis and non-Axis. If you don't like the price of something, it's this simple: don't buy it. Marketplace dynamics: an item is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it. Look at the pricetag and listen to your headphones in the store. Work those variables together while the needle spins... if it's not "worth it" to you, just put it back and get over it, vote with your wallet.

I can't remember Kent's post much now anymore on Mills & Chicago except for the fact that I basically agreed with most of it. Perhaps Chicago is just a place for him to escape and NOT be in europe or detroit or wherever. If I was practicing a craft that was much more appreciated elsewhere than where I lived, trying to get my town to come around to how great it was could get really old. And I would want to seek to practice my craft where I felt it was most appreciated. You look at your art form first and at your geography second at that level. Look at Claude Young and Dan Bell and Jay Denham and now Danny Wang and Hawtin and everyone else who has relocated to Europe to take their music or DJing where it can really flourish night after night after night... to people who are mad for it. I'm bummed as hell they left the US for selfish reasons -- but I can sure understand why they did for their careers.

peace,
--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

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