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> >But what if he and others in his position could take it further 
> than that!
> 
> >Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), 
> seminars,>clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the 
> game.
> 
> Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine.
> http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html

Thats in Germany though. To simplify my previous post in light of the last 
couple posts: I sort of see this issue as comparable to the difference between 
socialism and capitalism. The capitalists head over to Europe where the capital 
is at for the dance music industry. The socialists are community driven and are 
in it primarily for the general welfare and progression of the local community. 
Of course there are many in-betweens, but underground music scenes have 
traditionally avoided capitlist structures- sometimes as a philosophical 
reaction against the state of the mainstream music industry, and sometimes as 
an involuntary action due to lack of resources. When it comes down to business, 
there are many opposing viewpoints both within and outside the underground 
community. I think the opinions in this thread have been reflecting those 
various philosophies of the dance community and are all worthy of consideration.


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