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i think your name is peter right? ok...you make a rational argument...the
argument that he could 'single handedly transform the american scene' is
not...nor is it true...moby could transform the american scene before jeff
mills...but, if jeff mills spends the majority of his time in europe playing
shows and throwing festivals it's because that's who gives him the most
support...when americans buy as much of his music as europe does...i'm sure
he'll spend more time here...that's business...as far as the community
goes...they're never satisfied...if he was a perfect hero they would still
complain...or they would be silent...the sentiments 'against' jeff mills are
far stronger than the sentiments 'for' the very gallant efforts of derrick
may for putting up his own money to make the movement festival...
what makes this a community?...do they call radio stations? do they mail
letters to congress so they can have festivals and venues? or do they just
collect records, go to clubs to see said artists and make music themselves?
the people in this community treat each other like sh*t most of the time and
totally ignore each other the rest...i think alex mentioned the unrecognized
producers...let me say this...this so called community 'could' be the answer
to the big-shots ignoring the little guys, but the 'community' ignores them
too!

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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: (313) axis


> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > >But what if he and others in his position could take it further
> > than that!
> >
> > >Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall),
> > seminars,>clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the
> > game.
> >
> > Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine.
> > http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html
>
> Thats in Germany though. To simplify my previous post in light of the last
couple posts: I sort of see this issue as comparable to the difference
between socialism and capitalism. The capitalists head over to Europe where
the capital is at for the dance music industry. The socialists are community
driven and are in it primarily for the general welfare and progression of
the local community. Of course there are many in-betweens, but underground
music scenes have traditionally avoided capitlist structures- sometimes as a
philosophical reaction against the state of the mainstream music industry,
and sometimes as an involuntary action due to lack of resources. When it
comes down to business, there are many opposing viewpoints both within and
outside the underground community. I think the opinions in this thread have
been reflecting those various philosophies of the dance community and are
all worthy of consideration.
>

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