On Jun 22, 2004, at 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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<P>&gt; I refuse to buy into the nostalgia of the era - just because I was <BR>&gt; intothem when I was 16 doesn't mean that they were good </P> <P>very true.&nbsp; Nitzer Ebb is fun in the same way that something like LA Style "James Brown Is Dead"&nbsp;is -- a nonsensical time trip.&nbsp; It is not, was not, and never will be quality music -- but to me it's still fun.&nbsp; </P>

And I refuse to buy into the nostalgia of HTML mail.

<*Flogs jbartuski with his Goth cat-o'-nine-tails 'til he turns it off*>

:)

On Jun 22, 2004, at 2:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I think that bands like Cabaret Voltaire, Nitzer Ebb, Skinny Puppy,
Throbbing Gristle / Chris & Cosey, Front 242, MBM, et al, have just as
much relevance as Kraftwerk, P-Funk, Prince, Laid Back, Liquid Liquid,
Newcleus, Manuel Gottsching, etc.. in shaping the sound of current
"Detroit" dance [and non-dance] music..

At some LA gig (Autechre?  Scion?  Don't remember ... ) during the
pre-set music, they started playing "Sharivari".  I ran over to
cEvin Key (from Skinny Puppy) and said "Listen to this!  It's the first
Detroit Techno record!!!" and he listened for a bit and said, "Wow.
Really?  This sounds like the Cabs."

If it weren't for the magazines Freestylin' + Homebpy [a freestyle BMX
/ skate mag, edited by Andy Jenkins from Girl Skateboards, Mark Lewman,
and Spike Jonze, which regularly listed albums they were listening to
in the office], [...] .. I probably would have never had the inspiration
to start making music on my own.

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Andy Jenkins was in a great LA Industrial band called Factory (yah, I know, poorly named) in the mid 80's. We tried to get them on the bill to support
Skinny Puppy for their 1987 show upstairs at the Variety Arts Center (I
still have the handbill with them listed as support), but through some
promoter shenanigans, they got thrown off.

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Ob313: Speaking of Old Music, I just got the "Made In Sheffield" DVD.
It's brilliant, but probably better discussed on little detroit :)

        - Greg (who'll see Skinny Puppy 4 times in the next 2 weeks.  heh)

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