I have half a second, so let me say this... Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not shy about voicing an opinion, whether good or bad (and i think i spend a lot more personal time talking about things I like).
Like most everyone, I'd say there's my online person, in-person person and professional person- each one being a little more polite than the one before. i still stand by what i said. i don't think other people had any business getting involved with fetroit/Michigan civics issues when they don't live in the place, come from that place, or know any of the factors involved. perhaps you think that my publicly declaring the reasons why juan shouldn't have been included with derrick and kevin were out of line. maybe it would have been enough to just tell people to mind their own business. if i was merely trying to 'expose' someone's dirty laundry or 'prove' how in the loop i am, i would have just spouted off right away. i didn't. i did hint that perhaps there was reasons for juan's exclusion, but evidentally some people can't take a hint. whatever- its just my opinion anyways. but nothing i said was private knowledge. it's all public. i'll admit that the way i said things were probably a little flame heavy (thats that on-line persona that most people have), but speaking up when i think something is wack is certainly a right i maintain, on this list, or in person, or (when it's acceptable), in the print. I don't think that to do my job properly, i have to constantly behave in a consistant manner in my personal life. when i put juan on the cover of urb, with derrick and kevin last year, it was to tell a 20 year old story that is worth repeating. but- perhaps perpetuating the 'big three', as all journalist in this field do, is what contributes to the widely held assumption that none of the individuals should be allowed to exist without the others. that's why i was sure to pose that question to them, in person, and then print the response. maybe i also feel that it is my personal responsibility to counter some of the 'myth making' that is inherent in my job, by stating the contrary in my other communications to the world. also- be aware that a lot of my more skeptical opinions of people comes from working with them on a professional level (or lack of) both as a journalist and before that as a promoter. i never have and never will air that dirty laundry in public as it usually involves other people's money. so i guess this has actually turned into my response in full to this debate. if anyone would like to further discuss this, please do it privately (unless you think it's something that would benifit the whole list. i'm the last person who should tell anyone to take things private.) have a good weekend all. On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Renegade808 wrote: > i dont care who sides with who ...or who is in the cool click and who is > not........ > > you would figure that someone who is in a position that josh is in then he > would be ALOT more professional about what he say's in public forums...and > i am sure this does wonders for him as a representative for URB... but i > guess if these are the people URB wants to represent them then i guess > thats on them...... > > i tend to get annoyed with alot of what josh says on this list or should i > say trash talk.....but i also disagree with others as well....ahh well i > guess thats what this list is about....but no need to blaintenly talk > smack unless you would have the balls to say the same thing to that > person, in person....but my guess is that most of the smack talk on this > list would never get said to the person its about to there face....maybe > thats the problem > > annoyed with the constant smack talk..... > > michael > > > > > i remember you and josh having 'discussions' on the list. i remember > > because i always side with him. > > > > ani > > > > p.s. see you d people at bandwidth > > > > > > : -----Original Message----- > > : From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > : > > : ive been on here for nearing 4 years now, and i had no idea thats > > : who he was. and i read almost all 313 mail. > > : > > : tom > > > > > > >
