this thread still? Im going to boycot humans
whos with me ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) US / EU: Mani's knee jerk response > ok ok ok....alot of people have read into this WAY too much, and > rightfully so. as when mani wrote it i know he was trying to get a > reaction from it. we all know it was'nt the best way to say it....but like > i said it was HIS words and i think he was TRYING to get a reaction, which > some of you fell into hook line and sinker....even though it was not even > directed at you or this list really....the message was posted to this list > as it was to MANY other lists i think in an effort to let people know that > mani is changing how his agency does business.... > > > For the last week mani and cisco from the advent have been sitting here at > my house with other dj's/ promoters on the west coast disscusing this > topic...i think anyone who heard it would understand the full context of > all of this ....(at least those of you who have seen the American techno > scene)....it was not a europe bashing session...i mean jeeesh cisco was > here and i would say is a good representative of the European techno > scene...i mean cmon do you guys think we were all sitting around saying screw > europe lets not support them..... ohh except you cisco...... > > so once again i am sorry if this ruffled everyones feathers but a friend > asked me to post it to this list and i do think its relevent......and > don't you people think that i understand Europes inpact on the American > scene i would invite anyone to look at my collection....I have what most > people would consider alot of records and own huge sections of > R&S,DJAX,BUZZ,TRESOR,WARP,NOVAMUTE,HARDWAX,as well as many > other....records that i PAID for > and i thank Europe and the people who made them in my head everytime i > listen to one of > those gems..... > > for once it would be nice to see someone like Jason Brunton or many > others, to come over to our neck of the woods and play a nice party for > 2-3 thousand people who love techno.... > > so there now more tiesto bashing as i do think fred had a real good point ... > > Why fight over the crumbs when you should be blowing up the bakery > > and p.s i hate politics of the government kind so i aint even gonna try to > address those issues as they are not mine... > > > > > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > > > > > >>Kamal wrote: > >>"I can understand where people are coming from with their angry responses > >>as a knee jerk reaction, I cannot see this stance holding water after a > >>sober read of his initial post." > > > > I assure you that our response was not a knee jerk one, neither was our > > reading of his original less than sober. It is his original post that was > > anything but sober. While it is obvious that Mani spent a long time > > considering his position, there is no indication that he spent nearly > > enough > > considering his post. > > > >>"on the same note i would say that if european promoters are > >>getting the same treatment from american talent, STOP BOOKING THEM" > > > > You are correct in saying that we have the right to stop booking American > > artists if we have been let down by them in the past. As does Mani with > > European artists. And this is precisely what we have done. However this > > was > > not enough. It was then necessary to gather a greater understanding of > > American artists and find perhaps lesser known artists who were and are > > more > > deserving of our support and booking fees. Simply shutting your doors is, > > in > > your words, a knee jerk reaction. I was not being merely flippant when I > > suggested a trip to Europe might benefit Mani greatly. > > > >>"maybe his slogan should be "Saving America from bad manners". > > > > Certainly one way of saving yourself from bad manners is to never let > > anyone > > into your house again. But let it be no surprise to you that this act will > > be considered the height of bad manners by a lot of perfectly mannered > > people who will never again receive an invitation. > > > > Eamonn / D1 > > Dublin > > > >
