I think that one of the best thing that happened thanks to DEMF/Movement is that people in the US and foremost in Detroit suddenly realized that they had this music that was completely unknown to them but is so popular in the rest of the world. Without the festival Derrick, Juan and Kevin probably never got the Michichan Governor Award, there would never be a techo exhibit in the Detroit Historical. I can remember that at the first DEMF people looked at me like i was some mental patient just because i was in Detroit for this music fest. I personally would not mind paying for the festival but i think the strength for the local community is the fact that it is free, it is for Detroit and not only the freaks. We have lots of funny pictures of people who normally would never have visited the festival but got exposed to it just because it was free.

Just my 2ct...

KJ


On 27-jan-05, at 17:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't that why we seek to get away from the world with such things as
techno? A DEMF isn't neccessary, but was a treat. Having the festival at
any cost would appear to compromise the very idea that some of us loved
the most about it...
:D ense.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Neil Tomlinson wrote:

But the world goes round on money, no money, no festival....


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2005 15:02
To: Martin Dust
Cc: Derek Plaslaiko.; Matt MacQueen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005?

Martin,
Honestly, the reasons for the "sucess" of the festival have already been presented by Ian and others. They lie not in the numbers, or the money, but in the ability to share the experience with someone you may have never been able to share it with, in a manner that NO ONE saw coming. That very first festival was clouded in doubt, almost didn't happen right up until
the very day it happned, and was there not just for the true
techno-warriors, but for those who may or may not have ever been
introduced to techno at all. It was an ambassadorship for the sound and the freedom of expression that we all promote on a daily basis, wrapped up into a weekend in the city that incubated it, for those who may not have experienced it before... I think one of the best things about the DEMF, was the fact that it wasn't happening after midnight, in some stinky, wet
warehouse, but rather, in an open place, in the middle of the day.  It
attracted those uncommon to the subculture BECAUSE of the way it was
different from a european MASSIVE, or from a "rave"...

:D ense.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote:

Questions

1. Are we interested in the numbers only?

2. Would it not be better to put on a good festival that showcased
Detroit and International artists for 10,000 and break even, than 1
Million and lose everything, including the future of the Festival?

3. Are we on the list doing what we can to help make sure it happens?

4. Would it be better to start again and just continue to build on what
we make than suffer at the hands of people who don't care?

5. If we feel the numbers would be low in Detroit, why not put it on in
Europe?


M






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