Sorry, that should have been the 34:50 mark, not 39:50! My excitement got
the better of me...


On 7/1/06 10:26 AM, "Wes Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 7/1/06 12:36 AM, "Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>> At end, if they really understand the music and the philosophy behind artists
>> like Jeff Mills or others, they will finally find their own way to produce
>> and
>> play, if not, they would be quickly forgotten by all.
>> 
>> The discussion can be long... But where is the limit between copy and
>> influence?
> 
> It's never initially clear, as you say -- only time tells. I remember back
> in the mid-90s a lot of people came hard downwards on Surgeon for (badger)
> biting Mills and his style -- some of the more outraged even printed up "I
> Hate Surgeon" tees to advertise their dismay at his growing popularity.
> 
> But look where Surgeon is now...steadily innovating in many directions,
> pushing the boundaries a little further outwards...still pi**ing off the
> naysayers. Yet he'll drop some UR into a set -- a pointer of respect to his
> forefathers, a point of departure into some twisted new sonic constellation.
> (Check the current mix on his site for proof).
> 
> Surgeon's integrity was always there; most doubts about that have been laid
> to rest -- he just had to "find [his] own way" ultimately, as you put it. It
> was this underlying & extremely high level of integrity (where he mirrors
> Mills), rather than its lack, that seems to have really intimidated and
> frustrated his critics. In a slightly different context, you could make the
> same argument re. Hawtin.
> 
> Mills exemplifies that total dedication & lack of compromise -- it's in the
> music & all around it like an inspirational aura as well.
> 
> It's still a relatively rare thing in techno, though (& becoming rarer):
> that original artistic spirits can evolve from 'copying' & influence to be
> innovators in their own right, or even at least a little creatively
> independent in style.
> 
> Not sure if this mix has been posted here before. There's a sublime moment
> when Maestro Mills brings in a certain spoken-word track intro over the
> orchestral strings round the 39:50 mark. True shivers-down-the-spine stuff
> for me, anyway:
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> http://ia300228.us.archive.org/0/items/nicotitinehjeffmillsbluepotentialprom
> oSkyrave28052006/jeff_mills_blue_potential_promo__Skyrave_28052006_nicotitin
> eh.mp3
> 
> Cheers from the Antipodes,
> 
> Wes
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