One last time: 33:35 moment. Too much Lavazza...

On 7/1/06 10:34 AM, "Wes Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry, that should have been the 34:50 mark, not 39:50! My excitement got
> the better of me...
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> On 7/1/06 10:26 AM, "Wes Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> On 7/1/06 12:36 AM, "Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
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>>> At end, if they really understand the music and the philosophy behind
>>> artists
>>> like Jeff Mills or others, they will finally find their own way to produce
>>> and
>>> play, if not, they would be quickly forgotten by all.
>>> 
>>> The discussion can be long... But where is the limit between copy and
>>> influence?
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>> It's never initially clear, as you say -- only time tells. I remember back
>> in the mid-90s a lot of people came hard downwards on Surgeon for (badger)
>> biting Mills and his style -- some of the more outraged even printed up "I
>> Hate Surgeon" tees to advertise their dismay at his growing popularity.
>> 
>> But look where Surgeon is now...steadily innovating in many directions,
>> pushing the boundaries a little further outwards...still pi**ing off the
>> naysayers. Yet he'll drop some UR into a set -- a pointer of respect to his
>> forefathers, a point of departure into some twisted new sonic constellation.
>> (Check the current mix on his site for proof).
>> 
>> Surgeon's integrity was always there; most doubts about that have been laid
>> to rest -- he just had to "find [his] own way" ultimately, as you put it. It
>> was this underlying & extremely high level of integrity (where he mirrors
>> Mills), rather than its lack, that seems to have really intimidated and
>> frustrated his critics. In a slightly different context, you could make the
>> same argument re. Hawtin.
>> 
>> Mills exemplifies that total dedication & lack of compromise -- it's in the
>> music & all around it like an inspirational aura as well.
>> 
>> It's still a relatively rare thing in techno, though (& becoming rarer):
>> that original artistic spirits can evolve from 'copying' & influence to be
>> innovators in their own right, or even at least a little creatively
>> independent in style.
>> 
>> Not sure if this mix has been posted here before. There's a sublime moment
>> when Maestro Mills brings in a certain spoken-word track intro over the
>> orchestral strings round the 39:50 mark. True shivers-down-the-spine stuff
>> for me, anyway:
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>> http://ia300228.us.archive.org/0/items/nicotitinehjeffmillsbluepotentialprom
>> oSkyrave28052006/jeff_mills_blue_potential_promo__Skyrave_28052006_nicotitin
>> eh.mp3
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>> Cheers from the Antipodes,
>> 
>> Wes
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