>who
>is that carl cox figure.....
>fat ass dj running intec.... nothing special....
>::::clap clap clap::::: there ya go!
>I certainly didn't see richie in a commercial in europe where
>he's got an apron on and mixing batter in a bowl in a kitchen, promoting
>some mix cd or club night.
Hold on there - you are comparing apples and oranges now.
You are refering to a commercial that ran in Europe where people tend to be
a bit more open minded about the arts - music included, and therefore about
the people who create the arts - ie. Carl Cox
Yeah, Cox leans toward a populist audience but when I've seen him play in
Minneapolis he really went balls out with the techno - and you should all
know by now how rare a techno artist comes here. So I think he knows what
he's doing and staying true to himself. Juan Atkins - no offense to the man
for I do respect him greatly - has not shown up for the last two event that
I was aware he was supposed to attend here (no explanation was given by
either the promoter or the artists camp so who knows what happened). You
can't help but start thinking twice about going to see him again - will he
show or won't he? Just for the record - I'll go because he just might show
up and rock the place. I think I'm digressing but everything is so confused
at the moment I can't tell for sure.....
Since I live in the US where the arts are slashed out of school programs
and the tight ass right wing politicians attack it for, *gasp*, challenging
their perspectives, I don't see either Richie or Carl Cox in a commerical -
I hear Juan (Ford Focus) but I see and hear Moby (Nordstroms/SciFi
channel)! Ahhhhhhhhh this thread is running in nasty evil circles!
Plus - Carl Cox is a black man and I thought this was an issue of skin
color and opportunity - though *maybe* (this is an assumption I am making
not based on any facts of his life that I know) he's had it easier living
across the ocean - seems like Jeff Mills, Claude Young and a slew of other
black American artists always have (all the be-bop jazz artists for
example). That's why they go there to play and live - it's easier for them
and I don't blame them if they do. What would you rather do - stay some
place where it never seems to get sorted out or go where people are going
to respect you for who you are - not what color your skin is. I'm not
saying that Europe is Wonderland - its got its problems with racial issues
too but obviously if some of these cats are going there to live they must
be doing something better there than we are here. Has Claude Young ever
spoken about the differences between living in Detroit and living in
Glasgow? I'd be interested in reading/hearing what he has to say.
We shouldn't confuse this very important topic - it's not about if you are
underground or if you are from Europe - if Carl Cox came to live in the US
he'd probably run a greater chance of getting pulled over by a cop because
he is black. The issue is being black and living in the "land of the free".
Stop arguing over personal shit - take it off list. Let's get with the
program and work this m*therf*cker out!
MEK
glyph1001
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glyph1001
cox is definitely more known in a 'mainstream' type of way as opposed to
richie. I certainly didn't see richie in a commercial in europe where
he's got an apron on and mixing batter in a bowl in a kitchen, promoting
some mix cd or club night.
g.
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>hmmm. hawtin or cox. internationally, i really think cox might have a
>slightly higher profile, although i could be wrong.
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>On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Berislav wrote:
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>>>trance: oakenfold, sasha digweed (white)
>>>techno: carl cox? (black)
>>>jungle: goldie (black)
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>>come on, man ,techno carl cox
>>if somebody is mega super star in techno thats got to be Richie Hawtin,
who
>>is that carl cox figure.....
>>fat ass dj running intec.... nothing special....
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