On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 11:35:19AM -0600, techno wrote:
> >> I mean there's a whole GENRE of music -- IDM -- that is NAMED
> >> after a mailing list. And, I might add, the mailing list is 95%
> >> of the worldwide market for the music.
>
> point #2, IDM was not NAMED after the hyperreal mailing list.
I joined [EMAIL PROTECTED] in September of 1993, soon after its
formation. The preceding summer, Warp had released the first round of
(artificial intelligence) records. Brian Behlendorf, the owner of
Hyperreal and the founder of idm, had needed a name for the new list,
and since the Warp series was called (artificial intelligence) and it
was at least partially the model for the kind of music he wanted to
discuss, I think he decided Intelligent Dance Music was as good a name
as any. To my knowledge that was the first usage of the term IDM
anywhere. Less than a year later, Warp brought out the compilation
Artificial Intelligence 2, and Designers Republic incorporated
postings from the idm list into their sleeve art.
To me, the conclusion's pretty inescapably obvious.
> >> Does that make mailing lists influential, or just just a
> >> closed feedback loop?
>
> Do people really take mailing list seriously?
> I think your a little disillusioned if you think a small community of fans
> have such a big impact on the scene.
The hard core of musicians and fans that push the techno bean along
with their noses is very small. San Francisco has a pretty big
reputation in the international (intelligent) techno scene because of
people like Kit Clayton and Sutekh, and even though I'm no big cheese
in the scene, I know both of those guys and say hi when I see them at
shows. Sutekh, at least, I originally knew through the sf-raves
mailing list, and I met Kit at MAD, which was for many years the only
club night that focused on techno as such in San Francisco.
Folks like Morgan Geist and Darshan Jesrani used to be active
participants on this list, to say nothing of the ongoing involvement
of Alan Oldham (although the list appears to have pissed him off one
time too many, more's the pity), Sean Deason, and Todd Sines (among
others). I'm pretty sure Fabrice Lig was a poster here before he
started releasing music. The same goes for idm, where folks like CiM
were posting to the list long before they started releasing
music. It's an open-ended question (as per above) as to how
influential these lists are, but in the small and relatively closed
universe of techno, online forums have a large and growing presence.
yrz,
Forrest
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