on 11/17/02 4:09 PM, Forrest L Norvell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> point #2, IDM was not NAMED after the hyperreal mailing list. > > I joined [EMAIL PROTECTED] in September of 1993, soon after its > formation. The preceding summer, Warp had released the first round of > (artificial intelligence) records. Brian Behlendorf, the owner of > Hyperreal and the founder of idm, had needed a name for the new list, > and since the Warp series was called (artificial intelligence) and it > was at least partially the model for the kind of music he wanted to > discuss, I think he decided Intelligent Dance Music was as good a name > as any. To my knowledge that was the first usage of the term IDM > anywhere. Less than a year later, Warp brought out the compilation > Artificial Intelligence 2, and Designers Republic incorporated > postings from the idm list into their sleeve art. > > To me, the conclusion's pretty inescapably obvious. I stand corrected. I didn't realize the IDM list was around before the Artificial Intelligence compilations. >> >> Do people really take mailing list seriously? >> I think your a little disillusioned if you think a small community of fans >> have such a big impact on the scene. > > The hard core of musicians and fans that push the techno bean along > with their noses is very small. San Francisco has a pretty big > reputation in the international (intelligent) techno scene because of > people like Kit Clayton and Sutekh, and even though I'm no big cheese > in the scene, I know both of those guys and say hi when I see them at > shows. Sutekh, at least, I originally knew through the sf-raves > mailing list, and I met Kit at MAD, which was for many years the only > club night that focused on techno as such in San Francisco. > > Folks like Morgan Geist and Darshan Jesrani used to be active > participants on this list, to say nothing of the ongoing involvement > of Alan Oldham (although the list appears to have pissed him off one > time too many, more's the pity), > Sean Deason, and Todd Sines (among > others). I'm pretty sure Fabrice Lig was a poster here before he > started releasing music. The same goes for idm, where folks like CiM > were posting to the list long before they started releasing > music. It's an open-ended question (as per above) as to how > influential these lists are, but in the small and relatively closed > universe of techno, online forums have a large and growing presence. > > yrz, > Forrest I guess you have a point but that only represents a small percentage of the growing techno scene. I can name a long list of artist that are highly successful like Dave Clarke, DJ Rush, or Robert Hood (Detroit techno man of the year) who do not promote or participate on mailing list.
