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From: "still want to" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: (313) have we run out of music?
>>..Of course pretension and art go hand in hand, but I am
tired of the BS. My vision for the radical next step in Techno music
-- a re-prioritization that puts all that hokey
futuristic/innovation/"newness" crap out of the discourse, that
separates the music from the audio theory and scientific
delusions/obsessions, that finally makes Techno comfortable to just be
music. FFS!!
Believe it or not I do agree with this sentiment. ..but I just don't
understand
why you have to come over and call BS on my side of the court.
Where is this prevailing fear of the machine coming from? How can a bunch
of Techno heads be bagging DSP. Why don't we ban the 303 while we are
at .. I under stand the resistance to useless gadgetry .. but to cut it
off?
I appreciate that some people really desire Techno to remain the music
that
they love and are familiar with .. but for some of the artists mentioned
like
Aphex etc. . the use of Technology to make music was the journey, a
process
of discovery and inspiration through the technology that created the
music.
Its seems everyone is happy to ride their coat tails as long as its
interesting,
but when the artists exploration goes in the "wrong" direction .. whoa.
The
aficionado's cut loose and cry foul. Bad music, bad music!
Personally I'm not ready to dump the history of Techno and it's tendency
to indulge in the ideas of Technology just because I might compromise the
sensibilities of people who want to lock the genre into some fixed
paradigm.
In my experience, in my personal journey with Techno, the music captivated
me with its alien textures, it's mechanical execution of soul and groove.
To me the music set me on a trajectory of discovery. I don't expect to
augment this trajectory because I reached somewhere convenient.
I don't disagree with the idea of trying to make beautiful Techno in the
style
and methods that we currently understand. There is something very noble
in doing this and I will appreciate the results as much as the next
person.
But are we going to end up like popular Jazz music where artists execute
a series of standards over and over again? This might be okay?
My personal idea of Techno is just not locked into a this type of
ideology,
if you want to study sound waves and how they interact either
acoustically or electronically, you should do it! it is really
interesting stuff. my signal processing classes are wonderfully
entertaining. but it is not music.
I remember when my friends used to tell me that Techno was not music, it
was load of repetitive machine noise. Soulless faceless bollocks for kids
on drugs.
Perhaps it is a healthy sign that people with in the scene are now telling
other people in the scene that it's no longer music, its just signals in
the machine. (Isn't music theory is a form of signal processing?!)
I thought it was this very aspect that inspired so many Techno artist.
This exploration of the noise in the machine, the soul in the machine, the
fact that you could get this insane groove out of box with buttons on it.
This process of finding a part of ourselves somehow reflected by in
circuitry.
Are we now supposed to stop this? What is a reasonable inspiration for
Techno music? What should Techno artists use to draw out their ideas?
Here in NZ .. it is most often the landscape. Many of my frineds who
produce Techno use the environment around them to find their ideas. It
is the land and nature that becomes the rhythm of the music.
However there is a relationship through the machines and the systems
that are used to produce the music and the nature that inspires them.
The two elements are not exclusive.
There is a recognition of the dichotomy between completely natural nature
and completely synthetic music production.
In an immediate fashion the use to sound systems, sound waves, and ideas
of acoustic engineering are used to extend the expression of landscape.
The art, the music is in using technology to create a synthesise the
landscape.
Why? Perhaps to resolve this this disconnection between humans and nature.
To somehow use music and sonic form to draw the human experience back
to nature? Is this music or just science and circuitry? Is it just BS?
.simon
