dimension intrusion remains in my personal experience thus far one of the finest electronic albums of all time. among a personal top ten or maybe even five, though discounting the state of hawtin since the past five years.
On 5/6/08, [mark ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <<It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many > choices available.>> > > I think there is so much value in that one sentence, it bears > repeating ad infinitum. > > The possibilities are so endless in 2008, that a number of undesirable > by-products has emerged... > > Most significantly, much like the current state of Hollywood movies, > it's so easy to fall into the trap of getting wrapped up in to the > concept of technical brilliance and completely lose the entertainment > value in the process. > > In Hollywood (well, LOTS of movies, really...no need to restrict it), > the goal is ticket sales. Butts in seats. > On television, it's faces in front of screens to watch advertising. > > In years past, being adept at your craft brought people and the ticket > sales or faces in front of screens were the by-products. The tables > have turned, and it's the pure "spectacle"....i.e. the concept, not > the execution, that brings viewership. > > Anyone of my/our generation need only look at the last 3 Star Wars > movies to prove my point. It wasn't the acting and it CERTAINLY wasn't > the dialogue that made those films box office successes. If there were > any other name attached to them but George Lucas, those films would've > been laughed out of the theater, or worse. The dialogue was absolutely > ATTROCIOUS. > > It was the concept that brought people (including myself) in. The > spectacular effects. The story line (which was no surprise if you > haven't been living under a rock since 1977)...the end product, when > taken at face value, was fairly laughable. > > This is completely the problem I had with Hawtin's previous "mix" > cd's - they may have been interesting in theory, and clinically > perfect, but that's just it. They were clinical. Cold. Sterile. Devoid > of any sort of soul or funk. > > Or entertainment value...For a supposedly "dance" record, I wasn't in > any way motivated to even nod my head at the desk by anything I heard > on those recordings. > > If those recordings had been made by me, or any other non-name, they > wouldn't register a blip on the scale. But because of who he is, and > his cache of previous successes, the lack of quality was given a pass > in the name of progress. > > I think this was the feeling that a lot of people share when they > claim that Hawtin is a product of "marketing" more than "substance". > The confusing thing is, he didn't start this way. > > m > > > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:27 AM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Well, I don't know that what I wrote is categorically, >> deterministically true. It felt plausible when I wrote it. >> >> I think one knows what moves one's own self when working on a track, >> but it's not easy to know how other people react to what you're doing. >> It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many choices >> available. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > On 5 May 2008, at 04:21, kent williams wrote: >> > >> > >> > > I'll say this about Mr. Hawtin -- he's no dummy. He talks a lot >> about >> > > the concepts he's trying to implement in his music. I've been left >> > > cold by a lot of his output, and my suspicion is that when he's alone >> > > in the studio, the concepts rule over the emotion. >> > > >> > >> > I don't feel the same way about his output as you Kent but I'm also >> not >> > sure I'd agree with the concept over emotion idea either, it just seems >> to >> > determislistic to suggest that this is the case. >> > >> > >> > > It's always difficult to find emotion when you're working with >> > > machines in a room by yourself. A techno producer is like an old >> > > school photographer -- you make the music, but don't see how it >> > > develops until you see how a dance floor reacts. >> > > >> > >> > This is just wrong :) I can't and don't believe you think the above is >> > actually true, do you? >> > >> > > > > -- > "Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make > me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair" - Brian Eno > > Blind faith in bad leadership is not "Patriotism". > -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
