it's not an if. it's a statement of fact. juan atkins was making techno before he heard kraftwerk. he said it, he put it in writing, it's a fact.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in saying > something would be this way if... > You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they influenced but not > as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot. These 3 cases > should lead us to a real debate. The "if" leads nowhere. > > Kw > > On 02/06/2008, at 14:05, Frank Glazer wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had >>> never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed. >> >> That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit >> techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed, because >> Juan said he was already doing techno before hearing kraftwerk! >> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> remember that argument we were all having recently about whether >>>> techno would have happened without kraftwerk? the comment that >>>> sparked it was "Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had some >>>> difficulty without the Germans" (this was in the context of who >>>> belongs on a techno mount rushmore alongside the belleville three) >>>> >>>> well, i was just reading an article from the march 1999 issue of (now >>>> defunct) muzik magazine. it was an ongoing feature in which they'd >>>> have a techno personality come up with a list of favorite songs for a >>>> hypothetical mixtape. juan atkins was featured in this particular "do >>>> us a tape" and he said this: >>>> >>>> "track 9: kraftwerk - numbers - warner brothers: I froze in my tracks >>>> when I heard this. It was on the radio one night and I was like 'what >>>> is this?' **I was making music already, doing totally electronic >>>> recordings and the similarities freaked me out.** I used to go to the >>>> music store and just play around with the synthesiser. I think it had >>>> the same impact on music as the electric guitar did when that was >>>> introduced. You could do anything with it - your imagination was the >>>> limit." >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >> > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com