it's not an if.  it's a statement of fact.  juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk.  he said it, he put it in writing,
it's a fact.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in saying
> something would be this way if...
> You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they influenced but not
> as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot. These 3 cases
> should lead us to a real debate. The "if" leads nowhere.
>
> Kw
>
> On 02/06/2008, at 14:05, Frank Glazer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had
>>> never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed.
>>
>> That was exactly my point.  If you ask me, it proves that Detroit
>> techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed, because
>> Juan said he was already doing techno before hearing kraftwerk!
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> remember that argument we were all having recently about whether
>>>> techno would have happened without kraftwerk?  the comment that
>>>> sparked it was "Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had some
>>>> difficulty without the Germans" (this was in the context of who
>>>> belongs on a techno mount rushmore alongside the belleville three)
>>>>
>>>> well, i was just reading an article from the march 1999 issue of (now
>>>> defunct) muzik magazine.  it was an ongoing feature in which they'd
>>>> have a techno personality come up with a list of favorite songs for a
>>>> hypothetical mixtape.  juan atkins was featured in this particular "do
>>>> us a tape" and he said this:
>>>>
>>>> "track 9: kraftwerk - numbers - warner brothers:  I froze in my tracks
>>>> when I heard this.  It was on the radio one night and I was like 'what
>>>> is this?' **I was making music already, doing totally electronic
>>>> recordings and the similarities freaked me out.** I used to go to the
>>>> music store and just play around with the synthesiser.  I think it had
>>>> the same impact on music as the electric guitar did when that was
>>>> introduced.  You could do anything with it - your imagination was the
>>>> limit."
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> peace,
>>
>> frank
>>
>> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
>>
>
>



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peace,

frank

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