It's not hard to understand. Nevertheless i still see kraftwerk in
detroit techno. Juan got the Kraftwerk in second hand through other
styles, like electro.
I mean no offense, but what is really hard to understand, and
pointless, is this:
"it proves that Detroit
techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed"
An "if" does not cut it to prove anything.
Kw
On 02/06/2008, at 15:14, Frank Glazer wrote:
all i'm saying, and all i've ever said, is that juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. why is that so hard to understand?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, the fact you claim to be true is: Kraftwerk has nothing to do
with the
creation of the detroit techno. Right?
On 02/06/2008, at 14:54, Frank Glazer wrote:
it's not an if. it's a statement of fact. juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. he said it, he put it in writing,
it's a fact.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no
logic in
saying
something would be this way if...
You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they
influenced but
not
as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot. These 3
cases
should lead us to a real debate. The "if" leads nowhere.
Kw
On 02/06/2008, at 14:05, Frank Glazer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk
had
never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed.
That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit
techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed,
because
Juan said he was already doing techno before hearing kraftwerk!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Frank Glazer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
remember that argument we were all having recently about whether
techno would have happened without kraftwerk? the comment that
sparked it was "Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had
some
difficulty without the Germans" (this was in the context of who
belongs on a techno mount rushmore alongside the belleville
three)
well, i was just reading an article from the march 1999 issue
of (now
defunct) muzik magazine. it was an ongoing feature in which
they'd
have a techno personality come up with a list of favorite
songs for a
hypothetical mixtape. juan atkins was featured in this
particular "do
us a tape" and he said this:
"track 9: kraftwerk - numbers - warner brothers: I froze in
my tracks
when I heard this. It was on the radio one night and I was
like 'what
is this?' **I was making music already, doing totally electronic
recordings and the similarities freaked me out.** I used to
go to the
music store and just play around with the synthesiser. I
think it had
the same impact on music as the electric guitar did when that
was
introduced. You could do anything with it - your imagination
was the
limit."
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