I think JT is on the right lines ... I appreciate this kind of
discussion. 

And no way am I pessimistic about the music industry - certainly not
about the music that we like.

I feel some sort of resolutions or homestasis in this newly formed
system of appreciating music [including paying for it!] is pretty near,
although I'm loathe to pin my mast to the board about it yet .... Still
too much uncertainty.

-----Original Message-----
From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Martin Dust; 313 Org; robin
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview


It's not really the fans' fault. The internet has forced a drastic
re-configuration of the music business, that so far has not found any
balance, it hasn't really re-configured in a sustainable way yet. MG was
right about iPods and the fact that nobody really _listens_ to music
anymore. The mp3 formulation flat-out sucks. I don't care what site you
uh cite. The "artifact" and "reality" of music is ceasing to exist --
like MG says, seeing live music is becoming the only way to have a real
music experience now. Technophiles will rant and rave about the freedom
and access allowed by ethereal digital "objects", but we are losing many
of the old ways we marked and appreciated and valued cultural fuel such
as music...the digital revolution got ahead of itself. It's not just
because we're getting old. I'd go deeper and talk about Western cultural
trends and politics and blabla but I'm tired.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Reason it's not a business is because his "fans" won't let him make a 
> living at it.  You read what he said about people complimenting him on

> a record that isn't even released yet. That sucks.  I've talked to 
> struggling musicians who's so-called "fans" say straight to their face

> that they really enjoy their music but that they didn't pay for it - 
> just got it off someone else or from a P2P site.
>
> That sucks and that's not any way to be a fan.
>
> I'm not surprised that Geist is feeling the way he is.  How long could

> you possibly put up with that bullshyte before losing it?
>
> MEK
>
> Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 05:03:50 AM:
>
>>
>> >
>> > Oh yeah. I agree. Don't get me wrong, the honesty in there is 
>> > refreshing. The problem, as I see it, for people making a living 
>> > from music is that it's hard to take that break unless you're very
>> > (financially) successful.
>> I guess they are going to have to accept that it's no longer a 
>> business and back to a hobby.
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>
>

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