On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Robert ListMail wrote:

> Hi Tim, thanks for the input. I suppose that you don’t maintain a copy of the 
> pure shell and that you manually move (drag/drop or copy/paste) over the 
> shell elements (from the previous project) each time—yes?  

That’s exactly right. I open 2 copies of 4D. One with the existing structure 
and another with a new, empty structure. Then you start dragging and dropping 
to copy items to the new structure. Do some editing. Add some tables, menu 
bars, lists, pictures, etc. Quit and start a few times. Fix more things. Copy 
more things from the old structure I thought I didn’t need but found out I 
still do need. Finally after a few hours I’ve got a working new structure with 
the basics that I need to start doing some real work on the new project. 

> BTW: I used G4 Shell back in the day (1992 or so) and then Foundation on 
> several projects over the years. One of my concerns is that some of the 
> commercial 4D shells have not been updated very much… for example, using the 
> latest 4D Object features and JSON abilities would make that structure 
> incompatible with older versions of 4D which some shells continue to support. 
> I’m fine with embracing v15 and above—not looking back!

If you want to get started fast and have a lot of functionality then Foundation 
is the way to go. Great shell that you can use to do what I’m doing but get it 
done in minutes instead of hours. Foundation is being maintained by Walt Nelson 
now. The website only talks about 4D v11/v12/v13. Not sure what his plans are 
and what new 4D technologies he plans to add to Foundation. You’d have to ask 
Walt about that. 

Tim

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