On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Douglas von Roeder wrote:

> The company underwent an unsuccessful virtualization effort a few years ago
> (prior to my involvement) when they were using 4D 2004. The IT personnel
> involved with that effort are not longer with the company and the current
> staff has assured my client that they will "do it right this time".
> 
> I would appreciate your thoughts, insights, and real-world experiences on
> this topic.

The line that sent chills down my spine was “they will ‘do it right this 
time’”. This is a very telling comment. 

I have death with 3 virtual environments that are running 4D Server 
applications. 2 were custom designed and installed by a third party vendor. The 
vendor chose all the equipment, their personnel installed all the hardware and 
software, they configured everything. They solved all the problems and 
performance issues with the new setup. These two virtual environments are fast 
and 4D Server runs great on them. Everyone was happy with the final result. 
They paid big 5 figures for the VM, but it was worth it. 

But one environment was built by the in-house “IT guys”. Long story short, 
performance is not as good. They have periods durning the day when things “just 
get slow for a while” then they get better. Network problems. Some things work 
fine. Some things don’t works so fine. The “IT guys” built it, so they have to 
fix it, and they don’t know what more they can do to make it better. (And 
heaven forbid they call an “expert” to help out.)

You can be certain that 4D Server/4D Client runs just fine in a good VM. But a 
bad VM or a marginal VM can result in poor performance and other problems with 
4D. And the “IT guys” will always say “it is just a 4D issue, 4D is crap 
software that is why it runs bad in our VM”. That will be a false statement. 
But the “IT guys” built this VM so it is fantastic and can not be made better 
than how it is now. So you will just have to live with the way 4D runs in the 
VM. 

I hope your “IT guys” are atypical and much better than most. 

Tim

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Tim Nevels
Innovative Solutions
785-749-3444
[email protected]
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