Kirk et al,
no one listens but I'll be the voice of "discent"  :)

AWS, iCloud, Dropbox, Google storage, etc, etc
ALL have the same draw-backs:
- You (your company, your client) no longer have control over these 
files.
- Who ELSE is looking at your file(s) -- especially true for a 
competitive business environment, or Gov't regulated privacy.
- What are they (the storage company/cloud service) doing with your 
files/data?
  -- Google most likely scans ALL files stored on their servers, at a 
minimum to target advertising.
- If you care, what about Gov't three letter agencies? (and not just 
from the US, but other countries too, China, Russia, the EU, etc etc 
etc)
  -- in some cases it has been shown (is believed) that these agencies 
can/do give their country's business(es) access to proprietary data 
from other companies and other countries.

my 2 cents.

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 06:55:59 -0800, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech wrote:
> Hi Kenneth,
> 
> You've gotten a lot of good feedback already. I deal with a lower volume of
> documents but high access rates. Last year I moved the actual document
> storage to AWS using Bruno LeGay's component. Storing large numbers of
> actual documents in 4D isn't really feasible. Even if you use the 'store
> outside of datafile' option the backups still include the physical files.
> And you start to run into the OS limitations on numbers of files in folders
> at some point. I decided to store an index of the documents in 4D,
> including the AWS file paths. Within 4D you can access the documents most
> easily with a web browser - either the user's system browser or in a web
> area. Or you can embed the link in a web page. I do this with images, for
> example. And I recommend storing two versions of images as well: a
> thumbnail and the actual doc.
> 
> In my workflow this is great. Referencing the documents is a snap and
> doesn't consume tons of my bandwidth. If the user wants to keep a copy they
> just download it. It would be just as easy for you to download the file as
> well if you actually need to. And AWS is very cost effective for this sort
> of task.
> 
> This was a good solution for us. AWS can handle terabytes of documents in a
> flash and you can create sophisticated levels of security if you need it.
> Regardless of how much storage space you need your 4D datafile remains
> manageable.
> 
> Kirk Brooks
> San Francisco, CA
> =======================
> 
> *We go vote - they go home*
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Kenneth Geiger via 4D_Tech <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’m beginning to work on a new project (4D v16 on Windows) for a client
>> that handles a LOT of physical documents for their clients. They’ve got a
>> huge storage issue and when they need to refer to a document, they spend
>> huge amounts of time searching the physical files.
>> 
>> I’ve not started prototyping anything yet but I think I’ve got a viable
>> approach. The server will have a shared directory with a sub-directory for
>> each of their clients. There will be a dialog where the user enters
>> information about the document, including a text box where they can enter a
>> brief description of the document. The user would then drag-and-drop a scan
>> of the document onto the description text box and an “on drop” 
>> event would
>> trigger a document capture method. This method will have to rename the
>> document (the file-name will be created automatically within 4D without
>> changing the extension), check that the relevant sub-directory exists on
>> the server (and create it if it does not), and then save the renamed file
>> to the server.
>> 
>> If any of you have done something similar, I would really appreciate any
>> feedback on my approach and would welcome any suggestions, pseudo-code, or
>> code that you would be willing to share.
>> 
>> Thanks much,
>> 
>> Ken Geiger
>> Dolores, CO
>> [email protected]
>> 
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