This is 4D 16.3. The form was marked “Editable by user”, I guess maybe that’s 
the default for new forms created now? There was a lock icon in the upper 
right, just as you said, so I clicked it and now the form is editable again. 

Thanks for the help!

Jim Crate

> On Jan 26, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> If you are finding that this problem occurs with user-editable forms, you
> need to click the padlock on the form (top right corner) in the Design
> environment in order to modify it.
> Pat
> 
> On 27 January 2018 at 00:57, Pat Bensky <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Which version are you using?
>> I am seeing this in v16r5. It only seems to happen when the *Editable by
>> User* option has been selected of the form.
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 January 2018 at 23:31, Jim Crate via 4D_Tech <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A form I’ve been working on no longer allows me to edit properties for
>>> the form or any of the objects on that form. It just beeps when any object
>>> is clicked. The property list editor updates with the correct attributes,
>>> although many values are missing. I can option-click the objects to see the
>>> object method. This form only has a few objects so it will be trivial to
>>> recreate, but some of the forms in this system are not so trivial. 4D does
>>> not put anything in the system log when it beeps, and no error is displayed.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Jim Crate
>>> 
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