Narinder,

Re: “did you try to re-saving the source PNG image using an external program”

Yes, resaving the PNG using Paint.net made the PNG convert-able to JPG.

Good suggestion!

I’m guessing the original PNG is a camera photo, and non-standard in some way.

Bug 4D does not handle it like Paint.net….

David Ringsmuth

From: Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 2:57 PM
To: 4D iNug Technical
Cc: Narinder Chandi
Subject: Re: Picture Reduction / Conversion (2)

David,

Hmm... tricky one to try and troubleshoot over the list. Picking up on your 
point about trying with Paint.net, did you try to re-saving the source PNG 
image using an external program, also tweaking the compression or other 
parameters of the PNG (assuming that is possible...) and then trying to CREATE 
THUMBNAIL from that? It might help you to narrow down whether the issue is 
internal compression or not?

Regards,
 
Narinder Chandi,
ToolBox Systems Ltd.
 
I am available for new consulting opportunities…
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From: David Ringsmuth <davidi...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 20 September 2019 at 20:17
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Cc: Narinder Chandi <4dtechmailingl...@toolbox.uk.com>
Subject: RE: Picture Reduction / Conversion (2)

    Narinder,
     
    Thanks for asking that question.
     
    CONVERT PICTURE($Photo_g;".jpg")
     
    PICTURE TO BLOB($Photo_g;$Pict_x;".jpg")
    BLOB TO PICTURE($Pict_x;$Pict_JPG_g)
     
    The new, converted picture size is a couple hundred octets, no longer 244 
Ko’s.
     
    It appears either as an entire transparent background or a blank picture.
     
    Paint.net saves a JPG in 34 KB form 244 KB.
     
    I suspect the PNG is compressed somehow and not correctly convertible.
     
    David Ringsmuth
     
    From: Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
    Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:35 PM
    To: 4D Tech Mailing List <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
    Cc: Narinder Chandi <mailto:4dtechmailingl...@toolbox.uk.com>
    Subject: Re: Picture Reduction / Conversion (2)
    
     
    David,
     
    When you say that the "result is an empty picture", does the resulting 
picture have any bytes and/or dimensions, i.e. did you try checking it with 
Picture size and PICTURE PROPERTIES commands?
     
    I wonder if the issue is with the parameters that you are passing to the  
CREATE THUMBNAIL command? But then again, I am sure you must have double and 
triple checked that...
     
    Regards,
     
    Narinder Chandi,
    ToolBox Systems Ltd.
     
    I am available for new consulting opportunities…
    http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/ANN-4D-Developer-Available-td5765443.html
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    Date: Friday, 20 September 2019 at 18:27
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    Cc: David Ringsmuth <davidi...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Picture Reduction / Conversion (2)
     
        4D v17.4 234574
        Windows 10 Home
        
        Using Paint.net to open the PNG and save it as a JPG works fine.
        
        The resulting JGP is perfect.
        
        David Ringsmuth
        
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