Thanks to all who responded!

Wayne Stewart was able to wave his magic wand and make the Designer Password go 
away. I have now reset it.

There was a comment that if I had access to the design environment via the 
Administrator login, an option would be to just leave things the way they were. 
That certainly would have worked; but, I could not in good conscience depot a 
system in that condition into a customer’s environment. I feel mush better now!

Again, thanks to all!

Ken

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ken:
> 
> Chuck pointed out that you didn't have access as designer (I just
> skimmed the email yesterday), rather you have access "to the design
> environment".
> 
> The empty U&G file is worth a try but as Thomas implies, perhaps there's no
> significant downside to leaving the current situation as is. I've been
> working on an application for almost 20 years for a programmer client and I
> don't log in as "designer". Until now, I've never even looked at U&G and
> I've discovered that I have zero access there. I do have full access to the
> code and forms and can even convert it to a project (I cancelled *that*
> operation) so, if you've got that level of access, perhaps "do nothing" is
> appropriate.
> 
> --
> Douglas von Roeder
> 949-910-4084
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Ken:
>> 
>> You might be able to remove all users and groups by logging in as designer
>> and importing an empty users and groups file.
>> 
>> --
>> Douglas von Roeder
>> 949-910-4084
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 4:24 PM Kenneth Geiger via 4D_Tech <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I recently “inherited” a 4D v12 (Windows) database. The original
>>> developer has forgotten the Designer Password. But, fortunately, he had
>>> enabled the settings to allow the Administratror to access the design
>>> environment and the customer had that password. So, I’ve been able to make
>>> the changes that the customer wanted. But, I really hate to leave this
>>> system the way it is. My question is…is there a way to reset the Designer
>>> Password? Or, is there a way to delete ALL the passwords and start over?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Ken Geiger
>>> SW Colorado
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