You should be able to open the uncompiled version using whatever version
you are using now. You may lose some plugins or components but if all you
need is access to data that won't really matter.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 1:56 PM Perkins, Bradley D via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Hi Randy,
>
> I do have an both compiled and uncompiled structures. If I could find a
> v16 installer will that run on Catalina? Also do you know if there is still
> an ftp site that has older version downloads that isn't restricted to
> Partners?
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
> From: Randy Kaempen <ra...@intellexcorp.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 2:49 PM
> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Cc: Bradley Perkins <bperk...@lanl.gov>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Run v15.4 in demo mode
>
> Brad,
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Perkins, Bradley D via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com<mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> wrote:
>
> I've had a request to retrieve some data from a v15.4 database that was
> last used in early 2019. The customer still has the server with DB
> installed and a compatible client machine, but the machines are in storage
> and off-network. Given the current situation getting them online and
> remotely accessible isn't possible. I am working remotely. I have a copy of
> the DB on an older Macbook Pro, but it had been upgraded to Catalina and
> 15.4 will no longer open. I get a '4D.app' needs to be updated dialog when
> attempting to launch. I expect that is likely due to drop of 32-bit support
> in Catalina. My installed licenses on the MPB were also those granted
> annually through the partner program and have expired.
>
> If I could copy the 4D.app and the structure and data files back to an
> earlier MacOS Yosemite machine will I be able to temporarily run 4D v15.4
> in demo mode, or will 4D immediately request activation? I need less than
> 15 minutes to retrieve the requested data.
>
> Beyond that I may need to travel to their site and hook the client and
> server together with a crossover cable or maybe run a client from the
> server if one is installed. Their institutional IT policies would not allow
> them to place the machines on the network now (running very outdated OS
> versions, plus these were in a DMZ that they no longer have access to). I'd
> prefer to try off-site.
>
> My last 4D experience was with v15 and I understand that things have
> changed a lot. Could newer versions open the v15.4 DB in demo mode with
> minimal effort?
>
> Is the database compiled?  If not, a newer version will open it and
> convert it.  There are commands which are obsolete in the later versions,
> but you should still be able to work.  Picture fields will be an issue
> unless they are converted before going to 64 bit versions of 4D.
>
> If the database is compiled, later versions will not be able to open it.
>
> Randy Kaempen
> Intellex Corporation
>
>
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