Brad,

I have most of the older installers if you need something. I can PM you dropbox 
links for what you need. I have versions of v15 up to v15.5 HF1.

Version 16 to 16.2HF1 … I think I skipped a few versions of this one and went 
into v17.

Something I do for these situations is to have virtual machines in Parallels 
with older operating systems so that I can more easily run these older versions 
of 4D.

Good luck!

Randy

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> On Aug 25, 2021, at 4:56 PM, Perkins, Bradley D via 4D_Tech 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Randy,
> 
> I do have an both compiled and uncompiled structures. If I could find a v16 
> installer will that run on Catalina? Also do you know if there is still an 
> ftp site that has older version downloads that isn't restricted to Partners?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad
> 
> From: Randy Kaempen <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 2:49 PM
> To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
> Cc: Bradley Perkins <[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Run v15.4 in demo mode
> 
> Brad,
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Perkins, Bradley D via 4D_Tech 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> I've had a request to retrieve some data from a v15.4 database that was last 
> used in early 2019. The customer still has the server with DB installed and a 
> compatible client machine, but the machines are in storage and off-network. 
> Given the current situation getting them online and remotely accessible isn't 
> possible. I am working remotely. I have a copy of the DB on an older Macbook 
> Pro, but it had been upgraded to Catalina and 15.4 will no longer open. I get 
> a '4D.app' needs to be updated dialog when attempting to launch. I expect 
> that is likely due to drop of 32-bit support in Catalina. My installed 
> licenses on the MPB were also those granted annually through the partner 
> program and have expired.
> 
> If I could copy the 4D.app and the structure and data files back to an 
> earlier MacOS Yosemite machine will I be able to temporarily run 4D v15.4 in 
> demo mode, or will 4D immediately request activation? I need less than 15 
> minutes to retrieve the requested data.
> 
> Beyond that I may need to travel to their site and hook the client and server 
> together with a crossover cable or maybe run a client from the server if one 
> is installed. Their institutional IT policies would not allow them to place 
> the machines on the network now (running very outdated OS versions, plus 
> these were in a DMZ that they no longer have access to). I'd prefer to try 
> off-site.
> 
> My last 4D experience was with v15 and I understand that things have changed 
> a lot. Could newer versions open the v15.4 DB in demo mode with minimal 
> effort?
> 
> Is the database compiled?  If not, a newer version will open it and convert 
> it.  There are commands which are obsolete in the later versions, but you 
> should still be able to work.  Picture fields will be an issue unless they 
> are converted before going to 64 bit versions of 4D.
> 
> If the database is compiled, later versions will not be able to open it.
> 
> Randy Kaempen
> Intellex Corporation
> 
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