Tapani Sysimetsä wrote: > 26. toukokuuta 2009 15:44 Ralf Mardorf <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> kirjoitti: > > Tapani Sysimetsä wrote: > > This is getting comical, sorry ... :D > > Here are the links: > http://users.utu.fi/totaha/sysimetsa/tapani_sysimetsa_-_nuku.ogg > > http://users.utu.fi/totaha/sysimetsa/tapani_sysimetsa_-_iso_moottori.ogg > http://users.utu.fi/totaha/sysimetsa/tapani_sysimetsa_-_elamanpuu.ogg > http://users.utu.fi/totaha/sysimetsa/tapani_sysimetsa_-_tunturi.ogg > http://users.utu.fi/totaha/sysimetsa/metsanpeitto.ogg > > > I guess you don't use FLAC in the Ogg files, right? I don't know > how the radio streams from SHOTcast are encoded, but the presence > because of the basses (~ 80Hz) is better for the radio streams. > Just reduce bass at 80Hz (shelving) won't adjust this, this will > give a better presence of your Ogg files, but also will take away > gravity. I don't have any experiences with using Ogg, MP3 etc., > but they all seems to corrupt audio quality extremely, even so it > seems to be possible to control the encoding quality. > > > > To be honest, I don't really have a clue what you mean, I am not so > experienced with mastering and hi-fi stuff. I just listen through my > home stereos or wherever and try to make it sound somehow ok. > > Lossless FLAC versions of those songs are available on that notorious > Bandcamp site. > > I would certainly like to make my music sound more organic than what > it is now. > > I'm trying to finish a full-length album within next few months and > I'm planning to give it for mastering to someone who understands > something about it and has better equipment. (If any of you knows > where to do this with rather minimal budget, I'd like to know too...) > > Cheers, > > Tapani
I guess my English is to broken to make it clear. There's nothing wrong with your mix, just the bass covers the sound a little bit and this might be because of the Ogg. I don't know low-coast mastering studios, especially those studios are expensive, because they need to get back the money they have to spend for licences, e.g. the Dolby license. I was a professional audio engineer, but for myself I only made and still make music with home recording and HIFI equipment. You should try to master your songs yourself. 1. Use JAMin to compress the stereo sum or another multi band compressor. 2. Listen to the music also in mono, left and right channel added to one channel, doing that you can hear if there will be any problems because of phases. 3. In the forum I read hat you are using an AKG K240, I'm using an AKG 240DF. Don't trust the basses by this headphone, but you can trust anything else. 4. Wear the headphones also left and right reverse. 5. If you only have consumer speakers (HIFI equipment) try to listen to different speakers pairs, check the sound while driving a car, while walking through the room and neighbour rooms. 6. Compare your mix with a good professional recorded CD that is similar to your music, resp. to the result you wish to get. 7. Check out if the output of your amp is the same as the output of your mixer. Normally the sound is coloured, differs to the sound of your mixer. there also can be a difference between headphone outputs and the stereo sum output of your mixer, resp. the headphone output of your amp might differ to the speakers output. Response characteristic, saturation etc. can be completely different. Use this disadvantage as an advantage, try to make your sound fine for different kinds of response characteristics and saturation. 8. Check out what will happen to the mix if you just change bass and treble controls on your HIFI amp, set them to maximum, neutral and minimum and that at different volume levels. This is no howto for a professional studio, but IMO the best way to do the mastering with home studio and HIFI equipment. I'm not fine with Linux reverbs, but jconv, maybe the Arts reverb VST is fine with Linux, it sounds similar to jconv, but it is an algorithm reverb, that means you have more ways to fit the reverb to your music, than you have by using a convolution reverb. For 3.0-beta3 I'll try to work only with CAPS, Gverb and what ever is available, by the way, I also have 19" stand alone equipment, e.g. Reverb, this are much better than any plugins, anyhow I'll try not to use them, when working with the studio in the box, especially because I only have two audio IOs on the Envy24 card I'm using. Listening to a good 19" Reverb can help to edit a reverb plugin. FX also needs the right timing, but listening to your music I guess you did it right. Fine tuning of drum samples, guitars and different temperate keyboard maps (if available) can give room to have clean frequencies, presence (I don't know how to say this on English). For your mixings this seems to be fine. I don't have any solution because of cheap microphones and vocals, my vocal recordings always sounds a bit like having a cold, but the rest often sounds like made in a professional studio. In a tenant-occupied house recording rock guitars also is a problem, I don't know how to solve. I often play guitars directly into the mixer. Huge & Kettner guitar tube pre-amps give very good results, when playing directly in the mixer, but I don't have some. Cheers, Ralf _______________________________________________ 64studio-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
