tim hall wrote: > Hi Gustin, > On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 18:15 -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote: >> Don't bother. 8.04 will simply move it out of the way and replace it >> with a generic one anyway. You are better off using the Gnome utility >> for this. An alternative application to manage your video output is >> grandr. If you are still having problems it might be a good idea to >> get >> to know xrandr, the command line program that manages your video >> output. > > Yuck. My xorg.conf had been working perfectly for years*, until I > decided to move the cards about in their slots (in order to troubleshoot > a completely different problem). Now I discover that I have to learn how > to use some new configuration application, which doesn't appear to be > intelligent enough to use my (still valid and usable) old settings or > allow me to manually override it. I'm not a fan of user-friendliness > that dis-empowers the user, I would save up and buy a Mac if I wanted > that! Grumble, moan ...
I felt the same at first. Once I understood how it works I am now a big fan. Being able to change to Xorg settings on the fly, adding, changing, and re-orientating displays on the fly like every other OS is also a good thing. No more of the edit/restart X dance for me. When things go wrong I can still ssh in and fix things, now without having to restart X. I am not a fan of dumbing things down for the mythical "average user", but this is a case of legitimate progress that happens to make point and click configuration possible. Change is almost always uncomfortable but it is not always bad :) I only mention xrandr but it succeeds where sometimes the GUIs fail. Plus when things go wrong and you can't see the screen, it is a good utility to know. > > * The PC in question is approximately 10 years old, well, most of it is; > and all the components are still supported. > As long as the hardware is supported by the latest Xorg release, you should be OK. > I don't mean to shoot the messenger, thanks for the information Gustin. > I think a brief overview of X configuration with pointers would be a > useful addition to the 64 Studio documentation to help users whose > monitor / video card set-ups are not automatically configured correctly > or indeed, have unusual and interesting monitor set-ups. Anyone? I used to know the X configuration inside and out. Lately though everything just seems to work for me out of the box. I am writing this on a 5 year old tablet that worked out of the box (even the touchscreen works though I very rarely use it). What I am trying to say is that there is less of a need these days on complete how-to guides for configuring X. It would still be useful to document those edge cases but since I don't have any of that hardware I am pretty useless for this task. Hth, __
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