On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 14:02 -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote:
> tim hall wrote:
> > Yuck. My xorg.conf had been working perfectly for years*, until I
> > decided to move the cards about in their slots (in order to troubleshoot
> > a completely different problem). Now I discover that I have to learn how
> > to use some new configuration application, which doesn't appear to be
> > intelligent enough to use my (still valid and usable) old settings or
> > allow me to manually override it. I'm not a fan of user-friendliness
> > that dis-empowers the user, I would save up and buy a Mac if I wanted
> > that! Grumble, moan ...
> 
> I felt the same at first.  Once I understood how it works I am now a big
> fan.  Being able to change to Xorg settings on the fly, adding,
> changing, and re-orientating displays on the fly like every other OS is
> also a good thing.  No more of the edit/restart X dance for me.  When
> things go wrong I can still ssh in and fix things, now without having to
> restart X.
> 
> I am not a fan of dumbing things down for the mythical "average user",
> but this is a case of legitimate progress that happens to make point and
> click configuration possible.  Change is almost always uncomfortable but
> it is not always bad :)

Yes, I don't like change much. Having looked at the docs briefly, I'll
experiment with it later and see what I can achieve. If as you say, it's
a legitimate process, I too will probably come to swear by it. ;-)

> What I am trying to say is that there is less of a need these days on
> complete how-to guides for configuring X.   It would still be useful to
> document those edge cases but since I don't have any of that hardware I
> am pretty useless for this task.

Yep, I wasn't suggesting a complete Howto. Just a user-friendly
introduction to the subject with pointers. The official docs are a
little austere. We can only really document edge cases as they come up.

cheers,

tim


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