On 10-03-31 03:20 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Gustin Johnson wrote: >> On 10-03-30 07:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> GAINWARD BLISS 7200 GS GFORCE PCI Express, passive, looks like a 256 MB >>> one, original price around 35,- €, I could get it second hand for 15,- €. >>> >>> The people from the list seems to know the 6200, 7600GS, 7300, 6200TC, >>> 8500GT, >>> http://www.google.de/#hl=de&source=hp&q=[64studio-users]+GFORCE+7200+GS+&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=ee5ee57acdb47974 >>> >>> Referred to http://www.64studio.com/node/1119#comment-5374 someone had >>> bad luck using a 7200, resp. I still need to read the whole thread, >>> perhaps at the end everything went well. >>> >>> Because of MIDI jitter issues, there shouldn't be a difference for >>> integrated graphics using main memory for the frame buffer and a PCI >>> Express with it's own memory was said on LAD. IIUC what Fons has written >>> after I used his jitter test applications, the jitter on my machine is >>> normal for Linux and it should be impossible that the jitter is audible. >>> Unfortunately it's horrible audible. >>> >>> So because of audio I need to find a replacement for Linux IIUC what >>> Fons has written, the 7200 still is interesting for Linux video cut, >>> animation etc., because I never get 3D support for my integrated ATI >>> Radeon X1250-based graphics. >>> >>> Has anybody experiences with a 7200 and is the price ok? >>> >>> >>> >> You mean apart from the usual nVidia binary driver problems? > > Yes. For my old board I had a NVIDIA AGP and I didn't like it, because > sometimes it wasn't easy to add the proprietary 3D driver. > OTOH I always was able to get the proprietary driver running and the > card also was good without using the 3D driver, excepted of speed limits > for 3D applications. > >> I have a similar card but I chose to stick with the integrated ATI instead >> with >> 3d support due to RT kernel and nVidia drivers not playing nice together. > > What exactly is a similar card?x
A GForce 7x00 PCIe with passive cooling. I have it kicking around somewhere in my bin of parts, so I am not sure exactly which model it is. > > Searching the web, > http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=linux+gforce+7200+gs&btnG=Search > [1], the GFORCE 7200 GS wasn't supported in 2007, > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/evga-e-geforce-7200-gs-wont-work-nvidia-drivers-567849/ > > OTOH it's listed for the "NVIDIA GeForce Driver for Linux 190.42", > http://www.brothersoft.com/nvidia-geforce-driver-for-linux-269081.html. > Ans what does the nVidia web site have for drivers for this card? I would try the latest version directly from nVidia. > While it always worked for my old AGP NVIDIA with the proprietary > driver, it doesn't work now for my integrated ATI Radeon X1250-based, > even though it's listed for the proprietary Linux driver too. I had the > same with a Fax modem that was listed by the community as working with > Linux, but even though this modem has the needed chip set, there was one > revision that doesn't work with Linux and this wasn't mentioned, while > it was known by those community hardware guys. I had the same with a PCI > to ATA converter etc., but because of wrong information by the vendor, > that's why I don't believe community hardware lists and claims of > vendors. I only believe in other users reports of experiences. > > Because of the RT issue I wish to know if a PCI express graphics would > cause less MIDI jitter as an integrated graphics, because of the access > to the shared RAM. For knowing this I need the long overdue graphics and > I would test it with 2D too. On LAD they said that this won't make any > difference, but they also said, that the MIDI jitter I've got now > shouldn't be audible. If it's true that there would be no improvement No idea. > and the MIDI jitter I've got is normal for Linux and the developers > aren't able to hear it, so that they also won't do anything against it, > than I don't need RT support for Linux audio any more. If so I only > would use Linux for video cut, authoring, internet access, graphic and > animation applications etc., but not for music any more. I never was able to reproduce your jitter experiences. > > Btw. Ctrl + F "7200" for http://www.64studio.com/node/69, > http://www.64studio.com/node/1454 and http://www.64studio.com/node/1085 > was without success. > > Because the one who sells the card is a friend of an old acquaintance I > could ask him, if I could test the card. Doing this would be strange for > most Germans, that's why I prefer not to ask. > Again, check the nVidia site for drivers. Of course I would avoid nVidia if I had the choice. I have heard good things about the RadeonHD series of devices, and I have personally been well served by Intel GPUs. Other than that best of luck.
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