Hello Pascal,

I agree with you that a well defined and standardized way of doing fragment 
recovery and controlling the flow of these fragments are quite needed.

I also agree with you, that it belongs functionally (if not academically) in 
the 6loWPAN NWK layer.

THks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:12 AM
To: Mark Townsley (townsley)
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Subject: Re: [6lowpan] New charter for 6lowpan

Hi again Mark

>> - The issue of fragmentation. Applying RFC 4944 over a multihop radio
>> mesh exposes the network to congestion collapse, as described in
>>
http://www.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6lowpan-simple-fragment-rec
>> overy . I think that the WG should dedicate some bandwitdth to
provide
>> additional functions that would improve the LoWPAN operation WRT flow
>> control and recovery of fragments.
>>
>Fragmentation, OK, but why is flow control a network layer issue rather
>than a transport layer issue?

[Pascal] I'm talking about flow control on the fragments themselves;
this is either a LLC (the likes of 802.2 or LAPB) or a shim layer above
LLC problem (that would be us). The 802.15.4 MAC/PHY was not design to
cope with IPv6 MTU and when the IPv6 stack sends a NLPDU of 1280 bytes
minimum, it causes a burst of fragments that should be paced and
windowed. I suggest we do it in 6LoWPAN and handle the consequences of
our own fragmentation rather than rely on a LLC mechanism that might not
be there or adapted.

Pascal

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