On May 23, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:

> Hi JP:
>
> I see your concern.
>
> I'd argue that ECN is now pretty well defined now in RFC 3168, and  
> that
> the basic operation is pretty simple: emulate a packet loss in RED but
> save the packet. So the real problem is not ECN itself but what RED
> becomes in a LowPAN forwarding node. And that is something that the  
> node
> will have to define whether it does ECN or RED.
>
> If we do not have ECN then the LowPAN forwarding nodes will have to
> destroy frames which might be fragments. Considering the cost of  
> energy
> and bandwidth to getting the frame up to that forwarding node, the
> latency introduced by transport layer time out, and the risk of
> congestion collapse introduced by resending the whole segment, I'd
> suggest that ECN is actually a good idea.

This gets back to the point I brought up December 14, 2006. In lossy  
networks, end-to-end fragmentation and assembly is a real problem. It  
makes much more sense to do per-hop fragmentation and assembly. In the  
former, the number of retransmitted fragments is exponential in the  
number of hops; in the latter, it is linear.

Phil
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