Hi,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:27, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Hi Carsten and all:
>
> I think we need to define context and usage in the architecture
> document, not in HC.
>
> Now, there's this recurrent question about how many contexts and what
> they are for:
> - It is very hard to know how many we need if we do not know what they
> are for in the first place.
> - Another question that is not answered if the scope of a context.
>
> What we have today:
> - The Current version of the HC WG doc uses contexts for anything
> stateful
> - The Current version of the HC WG doc enables up to 16 contexts.
>

A stupid question, DDF 10 context 0 is the same as the context DDF 01, in
another way can you have up to 17 contexts ?


>
> Following the current HC assumptions, a context can be used to compress
> anything down to /128. As Carsten mentions down here that includes
> remote prefixes; and it also enables to fully compress a number of much
> used addressed such as the application gateways and servers that the
> nodes publish to.
>
> There could be a number of those babies, thus the number 16.
>
> My proposal is the following:
>
> - It is the edge router responsibility to maintain the contexts in all
> nodes. The contexts are distributed by the edge routers through a new ND
> option that the ND draft introduces, valid in RAs and Router
> Registration Confirmation.


It is something I don't understand. RA is for source prefix not destination
prefix how sensors will know destination context.


>
> - the scope of a context is the set of devices attached to an interface
> of that edge router. That is, it is guaranteed that entry 7 will means
> the same for all nodes attached to a same interface on a same edge
> router.
>
> - An edge router might use the same table on multiple interfaces.
>
> - For transparent mobility, it is allowed to have a common context table
> across the subnet
>
> - a context entry contains a prefix and a prefix length. Length can be
> 128.
>
> - entry 0 is the edge router global address
>
> - which context and how many there are (up to 16) is under the
> responsibility of the edge router (config, radius, ...)
>
> - if a node can not support as many contexts as the edge router
> requires, we can hope that it does not need them.
>
> - nodes should advertise how many contexts they can support max as they
> attach to a router (ND)
>
> - the router should store that in it ND cache and expand any address
> that the node can not understand
> - an new ICMP can be introduced to reject an unknown entry.
>
> What do you think?


I think this compression is good  for sensors that stays in the same WSN, if
a sensor is moving from one network to another (for instance parcel
tracking) it may be very difficult to use that compression.


Laurent

>
>
> Pascal
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Carsten Bormann
> >Sent: lundi 13 octobre 2008 20:18
> >To: Jonathan Hui
> >Cc: Carsten Bormann; 6lowpan
> >Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Fwd: New Version
> Notificationfordraft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-01
> >
> >On Oct 13 2008, at 17:36, Jonathan Hui wrote:
> >
> >> most people were happy with just two contexts
> >
> >Let me just point out that in the example I sent to the list on Jul
> >31, I used contexts for both the prefix of the 6lowpan and for
> >prefixes of the main correspondent network.  If you add the need for
> >state transitions (renumbering, other reconfigurations), two seems low.
> >
> >I wouldn't mind an update of this example for HC-01.
> >
> >Gruesse, Carsten
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