Hi Rene,

thanks for the information about 15.4e -- that draft would be very welcome input for Stockholm!

The clause you cited from 15.4-2006 says what I said in a couple more words:
15.4 provides state-of-the-art cryptographic mechanisms.
These can be used for security, but 15.4 does not say how.
In particular there is no defined key management.
The references you gave don't change that (but they do contain proposals for nice fixes, in particular finally a secured ACK).

I'm not saying all this to critique 15.4, just to wake up people on this list to the fact that we cannot simply rely on the wonderful security provided by 15.4 -- there is none, unless we add key management.

Gruesse, Carsten

PS.: 2^20 seconds ≠ 48.5 days :-)

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