Hi Carsten

You right. But please also include mesh under in your reasoning; I initially 
crafted this work in the light of the work at ISA100.11a, that is mesh under 
and thus needs end to end recovery.

Pascal

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>Carsten Bormann
>Sent: mardi 18 août 2009 15:54
>To: Richard Kelsey
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [6lowpan] making progress on fragmentation
>
>> (Sending fragments multiple hops in a route-over network
>> will require some kind of label switching.  That will need
>> to be discussed over in ROLL.)
>
>To document what everyone has been saying on the hallway:
>
>If you think strictly in layers, you have to reassemble the packet on
>each L2/L3 boundary, and then re-fragment on each L3/L2 boundary.
>However, the following optimization is obvious to anyone skilled in
>the art of layer violation:
>
>1) Upon receiving an initial fragment for a tuple (SA, DA, datagram
>size, datagram tag), if there is no reassembly buffer, do not create
>an actual full reassembly buffer, but just a rump data structure that
>records the IP addresses in that first fragment as well as the
>coverage of the packet space by actual data forwarded.  Forward (or
>deliver locally) the fragment based on the IP addresses.
>2) Upon receiving a non-initial fragment, if there already is a rump
>reassembly buffer for the tuple, forward based on that, and record
>coverage.  Otherwise, create a full reassembly buffer with the data
>received -- it might be for you!
>3) Upon receiving an initial fragment for a tuple that has a full
>reassembly buffer, (if not for local delivery) forward the initial
>fragment, record the IP addresses (and the coverage).  Then pump out
>the data in the reassembly buffer as bandwidth permits.
>
>Each time a (full or rump) reassembly buffer gets full coverage, drop
>it (or keep it some short additional amount of time to account for
>late-coming duplicates).
>
>Of course, the uncertainty when to drop reassembly buffers remains,
>but at least you don't have to keep the actual data (as soon as you
>have the initial fragment).  The way the (lack of) information works
>resequences on every hop, so the likelihood of initial fragments
>missing is limited.
>
>What we didn't provide in 4944 was a way to indicate "It's for you" in
>each fragment.  The last-hop sender may not always know, but when it
>does, having that information might help with buffer management.
>
>Gruesse, Carsten
>
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