Malisa Vucinic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I think we all agree on this. Since JN and JA do not share any
    > pre-existing crypto material, we rely on leap-of-faith for the initial
    > exchange(s).

I guess it depends upon whether you expect JN/JA to for a secure
per-host-pair adjancy during the bootstrap process.  I don't see the point.

    >> It could use 802.15.9 and create pairwise key between JA and JN using
    >> authentication that is forwarded to the JCE. In that case only the
    >> authentication requests and replies needs to be forwarded, not full
    >> joining exchanges.

    > I think we agree that only JCE can authenticate JN based on a PSK and
    > that this ends up at JCE in any case. What do you mean by full joining
    > exchanges? How many packets between JN <-> JA <-> JCE do you consider
    > necessary, strictly from a security perspective?

All the relevant protocols require between 2 and 3 round trips to get
things working.  How many fraglets that works out depends upon how big
the certificate chains (if any) are sent.

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Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works
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