Thank you for the figures, I agree on both, especially the second one.  The 
advantages of the recommended approach are: one octet shorter for case of 
single subtype ID and 256 available subtype ID addresses for any length.

Sincerely, Pat

On 11, Jan2016, at 9:19, Tengfei Chang <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Pat, all,

I would like to make sure whether this format will be the right format for the 
plugtest and everyone will agree. The attached is the document 15-15-0939-02.

There are two options for the format we will use in the plugtest:

1. we use what defined in 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-6tisch-6top-sublayer-04 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-6tisch-6top-sublayer-04>, which use the 
format defined in 
IEEE802.15.4e-2012, section 5.2.4.3 (page 81). If we decide to use this one, we 
need short/ long type of the subIE.


Bits: 0-10

11-14

15

Octets: 2

32-35

36-39

40-47

Octets

Bits: 0-10

11-14

15

Payload IE Content Length

Group ID

Type (0b1)

Length

Sub-type ID

Type

Ver

Code

SFID

other field

Length 
(0x00)

Group ID (0xf)

Type (0b1)

Payload IE

Payload IE Content

Payload Termination IE



2. we use what define in document 15-15-0939-02, which use the format defined 
in last page of the document:
For example the 6P command defined in sublayer draft:

the payload will be:

Bits: 0-10

11-14

15

16-23

24-27

28-31

32-39

octets

Bits: 0-10

11-14

15

Payload IE Content Length

Group ID

Type (0b1)

Sub-type ID

Ver

Code

SFID

other field

Length 
(0x00)

Group ID (0xf)

Type (0b1)

Payload IE

Payload IE Content

Payload Termination IE


Do we agree on the second one?

Tengfei

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Tengfei Chang <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I see. Thanks a lot Pat for the information! I found the document you 
mentioned. I will update the format in the Golden Images. 

Have a good day!
Tengfei

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:25 PM, [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Tengfei;

The IEEE 802.15 IG 6T recommended a format for sub-IEs in document 
15-15-0939-02 sent to this reflector on 30 November 2015.  The following is an 
excerpt from that document:
"Accordingly, the IEEE 802.15 IG 6T recommends that the IETF use an alternate 
scheme that restricts each Payload IE to only one sub-type ID and content, i.e. 
no nesting.  The advantages of this recommended scheme is that it eliminates 
one octet from the total Payload IE, it allows a full 256 sub-type IDs, and 
each sub-type length can be up to 2046 octets.”

Therefore, if 6tisch adopts the above recommendation, there would be no long or 
short types.


Pat

Pat Kinney
Kinney Consulting LLC
IEEE 802.15 WG vice chair, SC chair
ISA100 co-chair, ISA100.20 chair
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On 8, Jan2016, at 10:14, Tengfei Chang <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello all, 

As I mentioned on the Call, the 6top sublayer draft seems didn't  define the 
type of subIE used by 6P command ,long or short type?  Let me know if I missed 
it from the draft! Thanks you!  

Regard, 
Tengfei
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