Fine with me Qin

Or we could just say “service” and elide the repetition of the term “logic”?

Pascal

From: Qin Wang [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: lundi 6 juin 2016 22:54
To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[email protected]>; Xavier Vilajosana 
<[email protected]>; Thomas Watteyne <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [6tisch] proposed text to describe SF and 6P in archie

Hi Pascal

In the paragraph
"The SF may be seen as divided between an upper bandwidth adaptation
   logic that is not aware of the particular technology that is used to
   obtain and release bandwidth, and an underlying service sublayer that
   maps those needs in the actual technology, which means mapping the
   bandwidth onto cells in the case of TSCH."

You use two different term to expression the sub-modules of SF, i.e. "logic" 
and "sublayer". I propose to consistently use one. I prefer "logic".  Then, the 
new text will be:

"The SF may be seen as divided between an upper bandwidth adaptation
   logic that is not aware of the particular technology that is used to
   obtain and release bandwidth, and an underlying service logic that
   maps those needs in the actual technology, which means mapping the
   bandwidth onto cells in the case of TSCH."

what do you think?

Thanks
Qin

On Monday, June 6, 2016 12:04 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello Xavi:

Not sure what you want me to add?
At the moment the text reads:

“

4.2.2.  Scheduling Functions and the 6P protocol

   In the case of soft cells, the cell management entity that controls
   the dynamic attribution of cells to adapt to the dynamics of variable
   rate flows is called a Scheduling Function (SF).  There may be
   multiple SFs with more or less aggressive reaction to the dynamics of
   the network.  The 6TiSCH 6top Scheduling Function Zero (SF0)
   [I-D.ietf-6tisch-6top-sf0] provides a simple scheduling function that
   can be used by default by devices that support dynamic scheduling of
   soft cells.

   The SF may be seen as divided between an upper bandwidth adaptation
   logic that is not aware of the particular technology that is used to
   obtain and release bandwidth, and an underlying service sublayer that
   maps those needs in the actual technology, which means mapping the
   bandwidth onto cells in the case of TSCH.

    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    |  Scheduling Function   |          |  Scheduling Function   |
    |  Bandwidth adaptation  |          |  Bandwidth adaptation  |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    |  Scheduling Function   |          |  Scheduling Function   |
    | TSCH mapping to cells  |          | TSCH mapping to cells  |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    | 6top cells negotiation | <- 6P -> | 6top cells negotiation |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+


                       Figure 6: SF/6P stack in 6top

   The SF relies on 6top services that implement the 6top Protocol (6P)
   [I-D.ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol] to negotiate the precise cells that
   will be allocated or freed based on the schedules of the peer.  It
   may be for instance that a peer wants to use a particular time slot
   that is free in its schedule, but that timeslot is already in use by
   the other peer for a communication with a third party on a different
   cell.  The 6P protocol enables the peers to find an agreement in a
   transactional manner that ensures the final consistency of the nodes
   state.

“

In fact, I realize I’m not 100% clear what whether people think that SF belongs 
to 6top or sits over it as a service user.
Part of the confusion is the name of the SF0 draft “6TiSCH 6top Scheduling 
Function Zero (SF0)” which tends to indicate that it is part of it.

Take care,

Pascal

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Xavier Vilajosana
Sent: samedi 4 juin 2016 06:26
To: Thomas Watteyne <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [6tisch] proposed text to describe SF and 6P in archie

Hi Pascal, Thomas, all

inline too (see changes in *foo*)

regards,
X
2016-06-03 20:41 GMT+02:00 Thomas Watteyne 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Pascal,

Some typos and suggestions below.

4.2.2.  Scheduling Functions and the 6P Protocol (6P)

   In the case of soft cells, the cell management entity that controls
   the dynamic attribution of cells to adapt to *varying*
   rate flows *in the network* is called Scheduling Function (SF).  There may be
   multiple SFs, each implementing a different policy to adapt to varying
   network traffic.  The 6TiSCH 6top Scheduling Function Zero (SF0)
   [I-D.ietf-6tisch-6top-sf0] provides a simple scheduling function that
   can be used by default by devices that support dynamic scheduling of
   soft cells.

   The SF is logically divided in a bandwidth adaptation policy
   which is *independent* to the particular *mechanism* used to obtain and
   release bandwidth,
TW> I don't understand the previous sentence
   and a underlying service sublayer which identifies
    XV> Only identifies? For me we need to stress the difference between 6top 
protocol and this sublayer
 the
   appropriate TSCH cells to use.

    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    |  Scheduling Function   |          |  Scheduling Function   |
    |  Bandwidth adaptation  |          |  Bandwidth adaptation  |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    |  Scheduling Function   |          |  Scheduling Function   |
    |   TSCH cell mapping    |          |   TSCH cell mapping    |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    | 6top cells negotiation | <- 6P -> | 6top cells negotiation |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+


                       Figure 6: SF/6P stack in 6top

   The SF relies on the 6top Protocol (6P)
   [I-D.ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol] to negotiate the cells between
   neighbor nodes.  It
   may be for instance that a node wants to use a particular time slot
   that is free in its schedule, but which is already in use by
   its neighbor.  The 6P protocol enables the neighbor nodes to find
   an agreement on which cells to use.


On Friday, June 3, 2016, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear all:

As discussed at the last Interim, please find proposed text in the 6TiSCH 
architecture below.

What do you think?

Pascal

4.2.2.  Scheduling Functions and the 6P protocol

   In the case of soft cells, the cell management entity that controls
   the dynamic attribution of cells to adapt to the dynamics of variable
   rate flows is called a Scheduling Function (SF).  There may be
   multiple SFs with more or less aggressive reaction to the dynamics of
   the network.  The 6TiSCH 6top Scheduling Function Zero (SF0)
   [I-D.ietf-6tisch-6top-sf0] provides a simple scheduling function that
   can be used by default by devices that support dynamic scheduling of
   soft cells.

   The SF is logically divided in an abstract bandwidth adaptation logic
   that is abstract to the particular technology used to obtain and
   release bandwidth, and a underlying service sublayer that maps those
   needs in the actual technology, which means identifying the
   appropriate cells in the context of TSCH.

    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    |  Scheduling Function   |          |  Scheduling Function   |
    |  Bandwidth adaptation  |          |  Bandwidth adaptation  |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    |  Scheduling Function   |          |  Scheduling Function   |
    | TSCH mapping to cells  |          | TSCH mapping to cells  |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+
    | 6top cells negotiation | <- 6P -> | 6top cells negotiation |
    +------------------------+          +------------------------+


                       Figure 6: SF/6P stack in 6top

   The SF relies on 6top services that implement the 6top Protocol (6P)
   [I-D.ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol] to negotiate the precise cells that
   will be allocated or freed based on the schedules of the peer.  It
   may be for instance that a peer wants to use a particular time slot
   that is free in its schedule, but that timeslot is already in use by
   the other peer for a communication with a third party on a different
   cell.  The 6P protocol enables the peers to find an agreement in a
   transactional manner that ensures the final consistency of the nodes
   state.

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