On 11Aug2005 09:45AM (-0700), Roger Rustad wrote: > Seriously, though, how do you convince an organization to try OSS when > it's already drinking the Kool-Aid? > > I don't know all the details about LLU's change, but I have to wonder if > it was made simply because somebody didn't know Linux. If MS is the > "devil you know" or you want to hire trained monkeys, that's cool: I can > respect that, as long as you don't try to pretend it's the best solution > overall.
I. I believe the number one driver for this sort of thing is that there are IT managers out there that don't want to hire 'experts', 'gurus', 'hackers', etc... I suppose, if you hire someone that is better than you, then at some point, you are scared for your job, or that person shows others that he knows more than you do. At LLU, just like at many large corporations, schools, etc... if you are the manager, and you're not seen as the most important person in your department, that would be a bad thing. I've seen where an IT manager wants to keep operations so simple, that anyone with a high school background can reinstall what amounts to be an enterprise or mission-critical deployment. Some departments may discourage employees from using open source, since it encourages employees to be inventive and expand their capabilities. II. As a manager, you can make yourself look real important if you get the top brass to think that you were responsible for the entire design and implementation (which came reading a Microsoft tech sample...) and then you can hire trained monkies to use their mice and double-click on things to do the installation. Also, having a bigger budget makes you look more important. No department at LLU gets rewarded for being thrifty. Saving $300,000 on e-mail infrastructure by using OSS would mean basically nothing. The shrewd manager knows how to tap other departments resources and leverage unknowing executive decisioning to grow his budget. > > To the linuxphiles on the list, when might you consider using MS in lieu > of *nix? Just curious... > > Rog > > Brauer, Joel (LLU) wrote: > >Wow, thats so informative. So what they're saying is that Microsoft > >provides a feature long sought after in the Proprietary world. Support. > > > >Saw a great article about why google and others use linux yesterday. If > >you didn't read it already here it is. > >http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=2BF1A6B8-C974-42DD-8903-758193AE36BF > > > >-joel > > > >On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 02:35 -0700, Roger Rustad wrote: > > > >>Maybe the motards at LLU read this MS testimony on switching from Linux > >>to Exchange 2003: http://www.microsoft.com/hk/sia/search2.aspx?CaseID=245 > >> > >>From the article: > >> > >>"After migrating from Linux to Exchange, our IT administration workload > >>has been reduced by an astonishing 90%," explains Chiu. "To help me > >>quickly resolve issues, I have access to a centralized knowledge base > >>through the Microsoft Web site and local customer hotline. System > >>downtime is a thing of the past." > >> > >>Brauer, Joel (LLU) wrote: > >> > >>>don't do it :) hehe > >>> > >>>j/k have you looked at alternatives like open-xchange.org and kolab? > >>> > >>>Exhcange is nice, but it locks you into the outlook client or web > >>>access. (I know there is evolution on linux, thats what I am using on > >>>our exchange server) but its not as elegant as it could be. > >>> > >>> > >>>On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 08:38 -0700, Roger Rustad wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I'll soon be working on a 15 domain xmail to Exchange 2003 migration. > >>>> > >>>>Anyone have any advice, resources, or contacts that might point me in > >>>>the right direction? Someone else pointed to me to EIU.edu. It seems > >>>>as if they've just finished something like this. > >>>> > >>>>http://xmail.eiu.edu/ > >>>> > >>>>Rog > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>909linux mailing list > >>>>[email protected] > >>>>http://909linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/909linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>909linux mailing list > >>>>[email protected] > >>>>http://909linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/909linux > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>909linux mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://909linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/909linux > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>909linux mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://909linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/909linux > _______________________________________________ > 909linux mailing list > [email protected] > http://909linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/909linux -- /* david kaiser (NO SPAM/UCE) pubkey=1C8DCC8D begin e-mail decoder */ main() {int j=-1;char t[]="gndlvhuCfgn1frp\r";while(t[j]!='\r'){putchar(t[++j]-3);}0;}
