i'm using plan9port (thanks, rsc) on linux for some 8 years now, for all coding - mostly low-brow web dev primarily Acme as IDE, Rc and awk for scripting the necessary tooling
back when i was stuck at a corpo and had to use Windows on workstation, i installed p9p on one of build servers and ran Acme over LAN, through Xming there was no noticeable latency; it felt snappier than the corpo blessed IDE on windows my typical setup is: slackware linux, p9p, Acme maximized on the right screen. a few years ago i've coded a minimalist IRC client for Acme, was surprisingly comfy, but never followed it up another small use case was simplistic HTTP server for game map files coded in Rc; just enough to handle HTTP GET with Range header. was maybe 50 lines of shell. On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Rui Carmo <rui.ca...@gmail.com> wrote: > I’m late to the thread, but this seems like a good point to step in. > > I’m using plan9 on a quad-core Raspberry Pi as a sort of universal > terminal to manage some of my home machines, and recently deleted the > 9front VM I had on my home KVM server because even though the programming > model and Go support were nice, most of my day-to-day work is on cloud > solutions and there was no easy way to make those co-exist with Plan9 usage. > > There were a few discussions in this thread around dev stacks, browsers, > etc., and my $0.02 on that is that I could probably work in Plan9 on a > daily basis _if_ it had a usable (i.e., all the warts including JavaScript > and fonts) web browser, but that the lack of alignment (intended or > otherwise) with Linux tools and app stacks (SSH, Node, Python, Java) would > make it very painful. > > Running a remote browser (which is what I do often in that Pi) sort of > works, but you never get the full benefits you’d get with a native process. > And lack of access to modern app stacks renders the platform unattractive > for mainstream development work. > > But what killed it for me was the need for chording (mouse or keys). Using > a modern trackpad on a MacBook or Surface device is a quantum leap beyond > using a mouse for general use, and the lack of a modernised Rio with enough > thoughtful design to overcome the differences in philosophy is the first > barrier to continued usage. > > Acme is something I miss on occasion, but modern GUI editors compensate in > other ways (at the expense of resource usage, etc., but with a massive > boost in productivity for me). Also, I’m typing this on an iMac 5K with > nearly unmatched font rendering and legibility (the only thing that comes > close is the Surface Pro alongside it). Visuals matter a great deal. > > There is an unmatchable degree of purity in Plan9, but (even though the > diehards will stick their ground and claim it’s perfect to the exclusion of > other modern comforts) to coexist successfully it has to provide more > affordances. > > Kind Regards, > > R. > > > On 14 Jun 2018, at 04:53, 刘宇宝 <liuyu...@yingmi.cn> wrote: > > > > Compared to "not for you", "don't care", "intend to not be successful", > I like more the topic of cat-v irc channel on freenode set by aiju: "fun > fact: you can use multiple operating systems at the same time". > > > > Certainly Plan 9 can't replace Linux/macOS/BSD/Windows, I'm still > curious its upper bound for a sensible daily usage, and the best practice > from you happy experienced Plan 9 users. > > > > I checked mail headers in this mailing list, seems all use Apple Mail, > iPhone Mail, WebMail with AJAX, Gmail(a lot), ProtonMail, these emails > went through Postfix and Exim servers, probably on Linux. > > > > In great harmony, we use kinds of operating system and kinds of software > on them. > > > > Regards, > > Yubao Liu > > > >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:53 AM, N. S. Montanaro <n...@airmail.cc> wrote: > >> > >> I think a lot of people discover Plan 9 and want it to be something it > isn’t, rather than stumble upon it out of necessity. As the FQA says, “Plan > 9 is not for you." > > > > >
