On Sun May 12 14:43:17 +0200 2024, [email protected] wrote: > I don't mind the ad hominem attacks. I just hope things improve. I do find > it ironic that I'm addressing the 9front community about collaboration and > inclusiveness when I recall those as being two reasons for the inception of > 9front. > > Vic
You hit the nail on the head there. Why *are* you addressing just the 9front community or assuming there is no willingness to collaborate on its part? 9legacy users so far have expressed interest in someone else porting dp9ik (David for instance) or demanded explanations about DES cracking (Richard) or asked for others to port or fix fossil on 9front (Lucio), but who explicitely said that they would like to put in some work themselves and collaborate with 9front people? Maybe I'm beginning to misremember the rest of the thread, am I missing anything? Could you point to *specific examples*? 9front users demand code because they've already put in a lot of work and it has been often ignored or dismissed, and because it would be up to them to backport it to 9legacy -- why would they do double duty for a system they don't use and a community which is generally not receptive to their work? Also, do you realize that 9front right now has upwards of 10500 changes in the repository, after 13 years? Bringing 9legacy up to date as you've proposed would require a colossal amount of work, all just to obtain... 9front. Do you believe it has diverged to the point where backporting hardware support, fixing bugs and broken or incomplete implementations and so on will result in anything other than what 9front already is? You yourself demand everyone, especially the 9front community, to make suggestions, start projects, etc. What about you? What do you suggest to do and which projects would you take part in? That's what "just send the code" implies. Promises don't fix bugs or help implement programs, nor help fix this one-sided conversation. I'm asking these questions yet I fear that they will meet radio silence or more empty walls of text, as it happens too often here when asking "why" or how it came to this. I hope I'm wrong. Thanks, qwx PS: I was about to hit send when I received Richard's mail. Richard, thank you for the constructive and detailed response. I hope this marks a turn of the tide. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tcf128fa955b8aafc-M6a6ba83828236109b9c23a90 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
