On 6/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's the tricky bit: values of `slightly' in `slightly dirtier' vary
widely.  My value might be epsilon or zero; others obviously have huge
tolerance for rubbish.  I'm not convinced that the system has to be
made dirtier at all to attract users.  Perhaps changes are necessary,
but I don't see virtue in dirt.

I'm a firm believer in applications that keep newbies away from the
scary, more advanced bits.  Mac OS X has been successful in keeping
grandma away from the prompt, but it's still a unix underneath.
People who want the unix bits can get at them, and do reasonable
things with it.


> We need fresh blood.

I'm willing to try sacrificing goats but it hasn't work very well in
the past.  ☺

I guess I'll put my "tools" away then...


I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think it's got more to do with
educating people and getting them to write more-portable code, at
least in the long term.  Why are numerical programs dependent on
obscure gcc extensions?



Honestly, I don't know that Plan 9 can easily absorb a lot of the
programs that are already out there.  I also don't think that's really
so bad.  We're different...  it probably always makes sense to port
some programs from unix that are useful, but it probably doesn't make
any sense to port them all, especially when they don't take advantage
of the nice system we've got.

Dave

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